Thursday, January 21, 2010

Re: Ipods

Given the current state of mobility and connectivity, it won't be long (or it's likely already
happening - and you don't know) that your students AND staff are bypassing your school
infastructure altogether by using edge/3G networks for access - to do IM'ing, Facebook, external
email, photo/video sending etc.

There isn't a technology solution out there that will stop people from colloborating and
communicating on bathroom stalls....to using their iPods. You have to have a culture where users
will choose to use their device and or marker in appropriate spaces and places (and times).

...............................................................................................................................................
Need ICTS Support?
Please call ext 2414, email 'help' on eKristin or drop into our ICTS centre
Mr. Don McNamee
Kristin ICT Service Manager
Ext. 2371
021 228 8830 M
dmcnamee@kristin.school.nz
..............................................................................................................................................


A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>We also deployed a wireless controller. We created a wireless environment
>integrated with our AD domain that will only authenticate school-owned
>machines/devices.
>However, we also have a vlan for guest access that is protected by a
>password. We discourage staff and faculty from sharing this password with
>students. In fact, we only provide the password to staff and faculty with
>smartphones.
>
>A. Popoola
>Sacred Heart Schools
>
>On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Manns, Brian <mannsb@culver.org> wrote:
>
>> Yeah but they are teenagers. We tell our students not to connect them
>> and they connect them quite a bit...Currently we are implementing a
>> Wireless controller but have to have a public vlan. We are looking at
>> ways of dropping connections on it...Good luck..
>>
>> Brian Manns
>> Culver Academies
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A forum for independent school educators
>> [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Fred Austin
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:06 PM
>> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Ipods
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> We don't block IM'ing. Our policy explicitly puts the responsibility
>> on the student to conduct oneself properly. Attention in the classroom
>> during lectures is expected. Inappropriate activity is not condoned
>> using any medium and is strictly enforced through our discipline
>> process.
>>
>> We are a laptop school, but the students use a combination of laptop/
>> iPhone/iPod/cell phones for both school work and personal
>> communications. We do have a content filter, but rely on it to assist
>> filtering inappropriate content rather than dictate policy.
>>
>> You might be able to block the iPods by their MAC address. They should
>> be within a certain range of addresses. That of course depends on your
>> network hardware/software being able to selectively block MAC's. There
>> is also the possibility of blocking certain TCP/UDP ports that support
>> the activities you are trying to stop.
>>
>> You may spend a lot of time using technology to inhibit unapproved
>> activities, but the students can find a way around. We are finding it
>> much easier to enforce proper conduct than a battle of wit.
>>
>> Fred Austin
>> Technology Director
>> The Oakwood School
>> Greenville, NC
>>
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Tim Smith wrote:
>>
>> > Hello All-
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We've had a lot of students using their ipods to join our wireless
>> > network and use apps to chat. We have a web filter that blocks the
>> > things we want blocked (chat sites), but they use their apps to get
>> > around it. I was just wondering if: 1. Anyone has had success
>> > blocking
>> > ipods from joining their wireless network. 2. What are your rules and
>> > policies regarding inappropriate use of ipods during school?
>> > Unfortunately, teachers want their kids to still be able to listen to
>> > music because it helps them concentrate during work time. So, of
>> > course, it falls on the IT guys to fix the problem... Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Tim
>> >
>> >
>> > [ For info on ISED-L see
>> https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=128874
>> > ]
>> > Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons,
>> > attribution, non-commercial, share-alike license.
>> > RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L
>>
>> [ For info on ISED-L see
>> https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=128874 ]
>> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons,
>> attribution, non-commercial, share-alike license.
>> RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L
>>
>> [ For info on ISED-L see https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=128874]
>> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution,
>> non-commercial, share-alike license.
>> RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L
>>
>
>
>
>--
>A. Popoola
>
>[ For info on ISED-L see https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=128874 ]
>Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution, non-commercial,
>share-alike license.
>RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L

#####################################################################################
Attention:
The information contained in this message and or attachments is intended
only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain
confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission,
dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon,
this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient
is prohibited.

If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
material from any system and destroy any copies.

Thank you
#####################################################################################

[ For info on ISED-L see https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=128874 ]
Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution, non-commercial, share-alike license.
RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L