Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Re: Turnitin Ruled Fair Use (UNCLASSIFIED)

Now wait a second turnitin is using my works for a commercial
enterprise. I'm not a student. I have never agreed to their terms. I
am obtaining no value from their use, unlike say Google which provides
me with web traffic. So as long as you don't just go out and make and
sell copies of my work you are free to stick it into databases and
then sell access to that database without compensating me? If I can
not prevent other from using my work in a commercial way as is done
here then a copyright means very little indeed.

Greg

On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Peter Hoopes wrote:
> A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on
> March 26, 2008 at 12:36 PM -0400 wrote:
>> So in other word a copyright provides you no right at all. Anyone can
>> take your work put it into a database, use it for commercial
>> prepossess and so long as they do not display the whole work and in
>> some case even if they do that is "fair use"?
>>
>> This sound to me as if this ruling eliminates any rights granted to
>> the holder.
>
> (underline mine)
>
> This is not the case at all. Copyrights do not entitle their holders
> to
> control ALL aspects of the piece - hence the doctrine of "fair use."
> What
> you are seeing here is simply the clarification (by this jude) of
> the line
> between fair use and value of one's copyright.
>
> I could write a song, copyright it, and others STILL have the right
> play
> or sing it for various reasons (parody, for instance). Of course, in
> this
> case, I may be entitled to compulsory payments, but I can't stop
> them from
> doing it. I understand here that part of the issue is that Turnitin is
> making money off of material that is submitted by students who feel
> they
> have no choice.
>
> But, they do. Parents and students can complain vigorously to their
> school
> districts or heads of school. There is no one compelling the schools
> to
> use Turnitin, and that is the place to strike for those who oppose it.
>
> Our policy here is that teachers send suspicious papers to me, I
> submit
> them, check the report, and inform the teacher. Therefore, the VAST
> majority of our students never have anything to do with
> turnitin.com, but
> we still benefit from having the service available.
>
> Peter Hoopes
> Director of Technology
> St. Andrew's School
> phoopes@standrews-de.org
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