I definitely see your point re: data structure as it is easy to add that =
field. However, when you note divorce/remarry as an equivalent to what De=
rrel has asked regarding "Beatriz Isabela Seixas dos Santos Cardoso" and =
her last name it is not the same. In her case the preferred last name mos=
t likely is based on culture, no? (correct me if I am wrong there Derrel =
as the below would then not apply).=20
Here in the United States, people who divorce/remarry legally take on tha=
t new last name (and really don't want anything to do with their old name=
=20- at least in my experience with families). In the case of "Beatriz Is=
abela Seixas dos Santos Cardoso" it appears to be a matter of "official" =
or "legal" last name of record for government purposes in that country no=
ting that her official name is her given name and from where she hails wh=
ich is the need for the preferred last name.
Perhaps the conversation should not be centered around preferred last nam=
e field as much as it should be structured around designing the system to=
=20have a report for travel document and/or government reporting purposes=
=20that may pull from a secondary last name field?
Just my two cents...
Disclaimer: Ravenscroft School is also a Veracross client.
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R.EDU] On Behalf Of Derrel Fincher
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Subject: Re: SIS Names configuration help
They are willing to make the change for our school, but due to the
structure of their data, it would not carry over to all of the forms,
so I want to convince them that this is good for everybody. I had not
thought of the divorce/remarry issue, but that also happens here
frequently.
Thanks,
Derrel
--=20
Derrel Fincher
Director of Information and Communication Technology
Graded - The American School of S=E3o Paulo
http://www.graded.br | (55 11) 3747-4800 x160
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Bill Fitzgerald <dwfitzgerald@yahoo.com>=
=20wrote:
> From a technical place, this is a very reasonable request. It could als=
o be a useful feature in the case of families in the middle of divorce, o=
r when a parent/guardian remarries.
>
> I would also use this as a way to assess the vendor -- if they are not =
able to adequately address this need, or explain why they won't/can't add=
ress this need, it could foreshadow other things to come as the relations=
hip develops.
>
> Good luck with this --
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
>>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Derrel Fincher <derrel.fincher@graded.br>
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 3:30:49 AM
> Subject: SIS Names configuration help
>
> Most SIS systems have a preferred (or nick) name field for replacing fi=
rst
> names in the system with a preferred name. However, what are your thoug=
hts
> on asking SIS vendors to have a preferred last name field as well? I am=
> trying to make a case to our SIS vendor (Veracross), that this is a
> necessary feature.
>
> As an example, John Robert Smith might have Bob in the preferred name f=
ield
> so that teachers can call him Bob, while John Smith is printed on the r=
eport
> card and transcript. There, we only need the preferred first name. Howe=
ver,
> we might have Beatriz Isabela Seixas dos Santos Cardoso, who is commonl=
y
> knows as Isabela Seixas. In this case, I can put Isabela in the preferr=
ed
> name field, but I have no way to indicate that her preferred last name =
is
> Seixas. For legal reasons, we must have the full name in the system bec=
ause
> they are used with travel documents for school trips.
>
> How many of you would find a preferred last name field useful, or do yo=
u
> have other suggestions?
> --
> Derrel Fincher
> Director of Information and Communication Technology
> Graded - The American School of S=E3o Paulo
> http://www.graded.br | (55 11) 3747-4800 x160
>
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