Wednesday, February 6, 2008

Re: ISED on a Blog? Your thoughts?

Like many of you, I find this debate very interesting, and my own internal
debate about it very unclear. My first reaction was, if a student of mine
did what that blogger did, s/he would be in very big trouble. And then I
thought: should that be so? (Clearly, a lot would have to to with the
parameters of the assignment, but generally speaking,we'd react strongly to
anyone using another's words, for their benefit, without consent or proper
attribution.)

When it comes to privacy, I plead some degree of naivety, (you can decide
how much) but there's a certain un-coupling of my words on the internet with
my person - a detachment that I don't feel as much on the actual page. I
don't think it has as much to do with the medium as much as the volume of
material it gets absorbed into (a letter to the editor of the Washington
Post, for instance, is usually one of a half-dozen; comments on a blog or
Flickr page or wherever can be one of hundreds - not to mention that papers
come and go (though they do tend to stack up) but the percentage of that
letter, in terms of available newsprint, to me, may be small but, on the
other hand, the ratio of my written words here to the total amount of
information available on the internet is nearly quark-like.) as well as the
consequent speed with which we process that information. Speed also has a
tendency to un-link what we remember from its author.

I realize of course, that those links are always there to be unearthed, but
an article in Sunday's post by a media specialist highlighted how we spend
much of our time these days sorting through information and deciding what
NOT to read, and I think this too has an effect on our privacy (In terms of
this subject). Case in point: though I know that article is online, an
attempt to locate it to link here proved unfruitful, as I could remember
search terms only in the vaguest (media, ADD, etc.)

All of which is to say, that I think ownership of words and ideas - like
ownership of music and film - is likely to go through a major upheaval in
the next 5 -25 years, and I'm not convinced at all that it's such a bad
thing.

In peace,

*Norman Maynard*
Principal, Upper School
*Thornton Friends School* <http://www.thorntonfriends.org/>
Silver Spring, MD 20904
301.384.0320

On Feb 6, 2008 8:58 AM, Constantine, Norman <
nconstantine@stmarysannapolis.org> wrote:

> I guess we are now involved in an internet version of "Liar,
> Liar"......so much for our ability to hide what we really are.....
>
> Norm
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Meany,
> Catherine
> Sent: Wed 2/6/2008 8:57 AM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISED on a Blog? Your thoughts?
>
>
>
> Well, I guess I was naively still working under the assumption that this
> was a private listserv where we could be open, honest and helpful to
> each other, and the opinions, etc. were only shared with the group.
> While I've been probably more open on some topics than I would have been
> had I known/remembered I was being published on the Internet, I guess
> there is no turning back. This is how it is. This is where it is not
> only headed but has arrived.
>
> What I mourn is the loss of a private community that can share and
> cooperate openly, with some sense of privacy. I say this even more as a
> technology person since we have for so long been lonely people in our
> school and need the support and advice of colleagues. I know ISED is
> more than tech people now, but tends to address many technology-related
> issues.
>
> The archives are public. It can't help but affect how, when and if we
> respond to certain requests, and that's too bad. I find it amusing
> because we always tell the kids to think before they post things on
> Facebook, etc. Yet here we are, in some cases, baring our souls.
>
> Thanks for the notice. It is a wake-up call!
>
> Caveat emptor!
> Cathy Meany
> Boston Latin School
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A forum for independent school educators
> [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Marti Weston
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:05 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: ISED on a Blog? Your thoughts?
>
> Dear ISED-L Members,
>
> Recently an ISED member began feeding ISED list posts to a blog. He
> informed the list, although not the list managers, and ISED posts
> began forwarding to the blog. Shortly thereafter we asked the list
> member to disable the part of the blog that accepted ISED feeds until we
> had a chance to discuss the change on the list.
>
> While the list managers recognize the limits of a traditional listserv
> and believe that content should be made available in a variety of forms,
> we wonder if list contributors want their postings published a second
> time on a blog? On the blog they can be responded to without the
> knowledge of the original writer, unless that person checks in on a
> regular basis.
>
> Our thought is that this particular use of ISED material does not really
> come under the "Creative Commons." While anything can be reposted
> anywhere on the Internet, is the automatic reposting to a blog something
> contributors and subscribers wish to do? Should subscribers give their
> permission to repost? Does participation on ISED give someone implicit
> permission to repost?
>
> On January 17, my colleague and fellow manager, Curt, at the suggestion
> of the other list managers, wrote a polite e-mail request that the blog
> be disabled for the time being. The full e-mail was posted on the blog,
> although it was intended for one person with copies to the other list
> managers.
>
> We appreciate that those of you who have suggested changes or
> implemented virtual communities with other tools have taken the time to
> check in with the managers and then with the subscribers.
>
> Let's open this issue as a discussion topic. What are your thoughts? We
> look forward to hearing your views.
>
> Best,
> Marti Weston
> Co-Manager, Independent School Educator's Listserv (ISED-L) For info on
> ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L
>
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