Thursday, April 10, 2008

Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Has any school adopting Google Apps considered using the Shared Docs
feature for curriculum maps? Currently we use Atlas Rubicon maps which
offer a lot of rich features, but the kind and amount of use we're giving
our curriculum maps doesn't require these features or justify the cost.
If we were to adopt Google email and Google Apps I envision each teacher
sharing their course curriculum documents with an all faculty group. It
looks like the course curriculum documents could be organized into folders
by grade level, department, or division and it would be possible to search
any folder for key terms. I think our school could meet its curriculum
mapping objectives successfully using Google Apps. The transition could
involve a lot of tedious cutting and pasting and granting of permissions,
but in theory this could work, right?

Greg Stevens
MICDS
St. Louis, MO


A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC
><Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:
>
>>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>>Caveats: NONE
>>
>>I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>>recommendation with the following caveats:
>>--My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
>>currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
>>service when administrators used it for personal email.
>>--We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
>>Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
>>--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
>>time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
>>functionality when used on different platforms.
>>
>
>
>IMHO Google Apps is THE solution for those looking for a web-based email
>solution. We have been looking at Google Apps since Fall 2006, are
>currently
>running a pilot with about 40 users, and will be switching over the
>summer.
>
>With all due respect to your administrators, I hardly think their personal
>experiences with Gmail should be anything beyond one factor among many.
>Perhaps you administrators might like the price...free! Furthermore, no
>matter what you switch to some will like it and some won't. It doesn't
>make
>sense for the personal preference of a few to outweigh all other
>considerations.
>
>Don't forget Google Calendar, Google Start, Google Docs, and Google Sites.
>While you probably won't be jumping into these on day one, all of them
>show
>a lot of promise for education use. Also, Google Apps is very well
>positioned as ubiquitous broadband becomes a reality and more and more
>users
>have Internet connected phones/mobile devices.
>
>Sorry I didn't have time for more specifics...
>
>--
>Tom Phelan
>Director of Technology
>Peddie School
>tphelan@peddie.org
>Voice: 609.944.7625
>Fax: 609.944.7913
>http://www.peddie.org
>
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Yearbook Information

I'm in a new high school and we are thinking about starting a yearbook
for our first class. Any ideas or resources on how to start would be
helpful.

Michael Jacko, SJ
Cristo Rey Jesuit High School
mjacko@cristoreybalt.org

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Re: School AUPs and social networking

Katie Koestner of Campus Outreach Services is a good resource/consultant =
on this topic.

Rob Loia

Robert Loia=20
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Delbarton School=20
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Morristown, NJ 07960=20
(973) 538-3231, ext 3008=20
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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Davidson
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:50 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: School AUPs and social networking

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have experience with adding social networking guidelines to
standard school AUPs? Specifically, we are looking for examples of
language that address students posting videos of other students and or
teachers, recorded either at school or off campus, to MySpace and =
YouTube
pages. We would appreciate any examples.

Thanks,

Barbara Davidson
Marburn Academy
Director of Auxiliary Programs/Assistant Director of Admission
614-433-0822
bdavidson@marburnacademy.org

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Re: School AUPs and social networking

HI Barbara. Actually, our new policy as of last year covers only some of
what you mention below, but it may be of help anyway: I'm including our cell
phone policy because the bottom paragraph mentions audio and video.
Alecia
__________________________
Cell Phone Use
General Policy: Cell phone use is not permitted in the school building
before or during the academic day. Cell phones should be turned off and kept
in a locker during this time. After school, beginning at 3:30pm, students
should not use cell phones until they have left the building, and then only
with permission from a teacher or administrator. Any use of a cell phone
between the hours of 8:00am to 3:30pm will result in the immediate
confiscation of the cell phone. The student's parent must retrieve the cell
phone from the Director of Upper School.

Aftercare is considered a part of the academic day, and cell phone use is
restricted, except with permission of a teacher or the director. At no time
are any of the following acceptable without teacher permission: photographs,
video or audio taken anywhere on campus, or text messaging during school
hours.

Social Networking Sites and Instant Messenger
St. John's Episcopal School blocks on-campus access to most social
networking sites including MySpace, Facebook, Club Penguin, and Webkinz. The
reasons why we choose to block are many, but the largest includes bandwidth
issues. Intelligent discussions about using these sites safely at home occur
in technology classes in the lower school, and we are currently creating a
curriculum for reinforcing these lessons in middle school.

We also occasionally offer Parent Education classes both in the morning and
evenings to help parents understand what kinds of dangers and benefits these
types of sites offer. We strongly encourage parents to have frequent, open
discussions with their children about their online activities. Although
MySpace and the like are all public sites, students sometimes think that
adults can't see what they post. Inappropriate postings may lead to damaged
reputations and possible disciplinary action at school if the content is
libelous. Teens should not post photos or information they would not want
adults to see.


Alecia Berman-Dry, Technology Coordinator
St. John's Episcopal School
Olney, MD
www.stjes.com
My blog: http://ed-tech-axis.blogspot.com/


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Barbara Davidson <bdavidson@marburnacademy.org>
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Sent: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:49:34 -0400
Subject: School AUPs and social networking

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Does anyone have experience with adding social networking guidelines
> to standard school AUPs? Specifically, we are looking for examples
> of language that address students posting videos of other students
> and or teachers, recorded either at school or off campus, to MySpace
> and YouTube pages. We would appreciate any examples.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barbara Davidson
> Marburn Academy
> Director of Auxiliary Programs/Assistant Director of Admission
> 614-433-0822
> bdavidson@marburnacademy.org
>
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Re: pros/cons of Gmail/GoogleApps solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

One of the reasons we do not run a mail server at all is to avoid the
legal entanglements of data retention and interaction with law
enforcement. Now you are not required to retain data until you become
party to a legal proceeding but it is still a hassle we don't need on
our limited budget.

In our case we have simply told law enforcement, on the couple of
occasions that they have come to us, that we do not provide email
services and so there is no data to retain. We then send them on to
the email provider, who ever that may be. Having no email server, or
even a file server in our case, means there is no data to retain and
the obligations then is shifted from our school to the various ISP's
that the families use.

We do not feel it is the duty of the school to be providing such
services to students or faculty they need to learn how to use
computers and the internet independently of the school. The internet
to us is simply a communications medium, like the phone we don't
retain data on the phone and how students and faculty use it (student
access phones cannot make long distance calls.) uses it for what. If
law enforcement wants information on the phones at our school they can
go talk to the phone company.

Greg


On Apr 10, 2008, at 6:30 AM, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC wrote:
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> Any hosted solution, and Google's in particular(as opposed to a
> dedicated hosting of an Exchange box), presents a number of risks. I
> myself, have warned of some of those risks as they relate to enforcing
> data retention policies, interaction with law enforcement, etc.
>
> But just because something has risk does not mean that the benefits do
> not outweigh the risks. Often legal, regulatory, and privacy issues
> are
> a source of big FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) in school IT because
> there is often a hazy understanding of the risks and consequences.
>
> The school I work with now does not have a strong IT infrastructure.
> They are at far greater risk of physical loss (due to equipment
> failure
> and poor backups), compromised network security (from within and
> without), and they cannot afford to purchase the functionality that
> Google Apps will provide (e.g. web based calendars that can be
> internal
> or external). I believe that Google's mitigation of these risks and
> other benefits far exceed any potential liability and to some degree
> (i.e. if there is a large data breach based on hacking to Google)
> Google
> provides a shield. Circumstances could easily change (e.g. they
> hire a
> full-time IT person) and my opinion would follow.
>
> In terms of risk based on privacy and Google's scanning you can trust
> that the legal, regulatory, and contractual protections are
> sufficient,
> or they are not. In my opinion those privacy risks are largely
> based on
> unknowns and that makes them more FUD than risks I can calculate
> against
> and present to a board as part of a cost-benefit analysis. Go too far
> down that road and it becomes pretty dystopian, pretty fast:
> http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2007/09/google_fiction_evil
> _dangerous_surveillance_control_1.php
>
> If you are already experiencing problems that are large enough to
> drive
> users to non-school account for school vendors, I believe you are
> already at far greater risk than you would be with Google apps. But
> again, the details of each situation make all the difference.
>
> _J
> ___________________________________
>
> Jason Johnson - Program Director
> Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
> 9001:2000 certified)
> Office: 202-782-1047
> Cell: 202-262-0516
> jason.johnson@ingenium.net
> jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil
>
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Re: School AUPs and social networking

I would recommend looking at these AUP's:

http://schoolcomputing.wikia.com/wiki/Acceptable_Use_Policies


A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>We have ours listed online at:
>http://www.woodward.edu/students/policie_agreement.asp .
>Social networking is under netiquette and responsibility use, it is
>specifically under #4, but can be included under others.
>
>Patty McIver
>Web Manager
>IT Department - Woodward Academy
>404-765-4137
>patty.mciver@woodward.edu
>www.woodward.edu
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: A forum for independent school educators
>[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Davidson
>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:50 AM
>To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>Subject: School AUPs and social networking
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>Does anyone have experience with adding social networking guidelines to
>standard school AUPs? Specifically, we are looking for examples of
>language that address students posting videos of other students and or
>teachers, recorded either at school or off campus, to MySpace and
>YouTube
>pages. We would appreciate any examples.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Barbara Davidson
>Marburn Academy
>Director of Auxiliary Programs/Assistant Director of Admission
>614-433-0822
>bdavidson@marburnacademy.org
>
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+++++++++++++++++++++
Alex Ragone
Director of Technology
Collegiate School
New York, NY
212-812-8695

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Re: School AUPs and social networking

We have ours listed online at:
http://www.woodward.edu/students/policie_agreement.asp .
Social networking is under netiquette and responsibility use, it is
specifically under #4, but can be included under others.

Patty McIver
Web Manager
IT Department - Woodward Academy
404-765-4137
patty.mciver@woodward.edu
www.woodward.edu


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From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Davidson
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:50 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: School AUPs and social networking

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have experience with adding social networking guidelines to
standard school AUPs? Specifically, we are looking for examples of
language that address students posting videos of other students and or
teachers, recorded either at school or off campus, to MySpace and
YouTube
pages. We would appreciate any examples.

Thanks,

Barbara Davidson
Marburn Academy
Director of Auxiliary Programs/Assistant Director of Admission
614-433-0822
bdavidson@marburnacademy.org

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School AUPs and social networking

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone have experience with adding social networking guidelines to
standard school AUPs? Specifically, we are looking for examples of
language that address students posting videos of other students and or
teachers, recorded either at school or off campus, to MySpace and YouTube
pages. We would appreciate any examples.

Thanks,

Barbara Davidson
Marburn Academy
Director of Auxiliary Programs/Assistant Director of Admission
614-433-0822
bdavidson@marburnacademy.org

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Re: pros/cons of Gmail/GoogleApps solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

Any hosted solution, and Google's in particular(as opposed to a
dedicated hosting of an Exchange box), presents a number of risks. I
myself, have warned of some of those risks as they relate to enforcing
data retention policies, interaction with law enforcement, etc.

But just because something has risk does not mean that the benefits do
not outweigh the risks. Often legal, regulatory, and privacy issues are
a source of big FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) in school IT because
there is often a hazy understanding of the risks and consequences.

The school I work with now does not have a strong IT infrastructure.
They are at far greater risk of physical loss (due to equipment failure
and poor backups), compromised network security (from within and
without), and they cannot afford to purchase the functionality that
Google Apps will provide (e.g. web based calendars that can be internal
or external). I believe that Google's mitigation of these risks and
other benefits far exceed any potential liability and to some degree
(i.e. if there is a large data breach based on hacking to Google) Google
provides a shield. Circumstances could easily change (e.g. they hire a
full-time IT person) and my opinion would follow.

In terms of risk based on privacy and Google's scanning you can trust
that the legal, regulatory, and contractual protections are sufficient,
or they are not. In my opinion those privacy risks are largely based on
unknowns and that makes them more FUD than risks I can calculate against
and present to a board as part of a cost-benefit analysis. Go too far
down that road and it becomes pretty dystopian, pretty fast:
http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2007/09/google_fiction_evil
_dangerous_surveillance_control_1.php =20

If you are already experiencing problems that are large enough to drive
users to non-school account for school vendors, I believe you are
already at far greater risk than you would be with Google apps. But
again, the details of each situation make all the difference.

_J
___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Christopher -

I kind of wish we had that problem - at this time, our board is not in
favor of providing student e-mail, so we use GApps for faculty e-mail
only. The only issue I've had raised is restoring deleted messages for
faculty (I've never enjoyed that part if my job when we had email on-
site) - but there are several services that will do that for you at a
reasonable price. Then, it just depends how much your administration
insists on it - I'm a bit hard lined about saying "if you deleted it,
it's gone."

In terms if the student issue, nothing beats an on-site server. I,
too, would be interested to see what solutions others have found to
this issue.

Jen

On Apr 9, 2008, at 16:17, CHRISTOPHER BUTLER <CBUTLER@stjohnsprep.org>
wrote:

> I hope someone has a good response to what I'm about to write. I
> don't mean
> to rain on the parade of praise for off-site email, but I do have some
> concerns with not having more control over the server.
>
> What happens when a student's account gets abused by another student
> who has
> stolen a password? Assuming that you can even get access to the
> logs that
> track logins, read messages, etc..., if it happened during the
> school day
> (or if you are a boarding school) the best info you will get is your
> public
> WAN address. You'll have a bear of a time tracking those logins
> back to
> particular machines on campus.
>
> We've had this happen a few times here and within 15 minutes, I can
> associate an email login to a computer on campus by IP and cross-
> reference
> that with workstation logins and pretty quickly get a very short
> list of
> students who were probably involved. No need to wait for Google to
> provide
> the info (assuming they will even do that). In some cases, we've even
> tracked the suspect logins to public IPs and have been able to cross
> reference those with other logins from that IP and challenge the
> students to
> a decent explanation of what our logs show.
>
> We also have access to detailed message tracking for both internal
> and SMTP
> messaging so that we can usually get the information we need pretty
> quickly
> to solve problems.
>
> I would be happy to save money go with an offsite solution, but I'd
> also
> want to continue to have detailed tracking and reporting for
> tracking down
> inappropriate use and troubleshooting. Do any of the off-site
> vendors off
> this?
>
> Christopher Butler
>
>
> --
> Christopher Butler
> Academic Technology Director
> St. John's Preparatory School
> Danvers, MA
>
>
>
> On 4/9/08 3:42 PM, "Tom Phelan" <tphelan@PEDDIE.ORG> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC
>> <Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:
>>
>>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>>> Caveats: NONE
>>>
>>> I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>>> recommendation with the following caveats:
>>> --My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it
>>> is
>>> currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the
>>> gmail
>>> service when administrators used it for personal email.
>>> --We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
>>> Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
>>> --We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at
>>> this
>>> time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the
>>> differences in
>>> functionality when used on different platforms.
>>>
>>
>>
>> IMHO Google Apps is THE solution for those looking for a web-based
>> email
>> solution. We have been looking at Google Apps since Fall 2006, are
>> currently
>> running a pilot with about 40 users, and will be switching over the
>> summer.
>>
>> With all due respect to your administrators, I hardly think their
>> personal
>> experiences with Gmail should be anything beyond one factor among
>> many.
>> Perhaps you administrators might like the price...free!
>> Furthermore, no
>> matter what you switch to some will like it and some won't. It
>> doesn't make
>> sense for the personal preference of a few to outweigh all other
>> considerations.
>>
>> Don't forget Google Calendar, Google Start, Google Docs, and Google
>> Sites.
>> While you probably won't be jumping into these on day one, all of
>> them show
>> a lot of promise for education use. Also, Google Apps is very well
>> positioned as ubiquitous broadband becomes a reality and more and
>> more users
>> have Internet connected phones/mobile devices.
>>
>> Sorry I didn't have time for more specifics...
>
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Wednesday, April 9, 2008

Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hey Jason,
My understanding is that Microsoft Live@edu is "free" for k-12. (Alumni
would see ads unless you pay for removal.)=20
http://get.liveatedu.com/Education/Connect/
We may go this route with the OWA not the hotmail interface. It can also
be accessed through an Outlook (or other client.)

I felt like the Gaggle interface was a bit simplistic, and I'd like to
have calendaring and AD integration.=20

-Demetri

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN

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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400
From: "Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC"
<Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil>
Subject: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
functionality when used on different platforms.

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Re: pros/cons of Gmail/GoogleApps solution

I would like to add to the concern voiced below. Google makes its money
selling advertising, not applications. You agree to their Terms of Service
in order to get their 'free' products. Those terms include their right to
scan your emails for subjects of interest to you. They also (reportedly)
scan emails SENT TO YOU by people who didn't agree to their terms of
service.

My school has a number of other needs competing for resources. So a free,
globally-accessible email solution with a pleasant interface and some nice
features feels very tempting. Here, some of my staff are so unhappy with
our current POP3 > Outlook (not Exchange) that they have taken to using
their personal Gmail accounts "on behalf of" their official school accounts.
However I have a real concern about the privacy of sensitive matters which
regularly pass through teachers' and administrators' inboxes.

How have you who use GoogleApps managed the privacy issue? I realize that
NO EMAILS sent via the internet are truly confidential but...


Dan Berger
Technology Coordinator
Jewish Primary Day School of the Nations Capital

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of CHRISTOPHER BUTLER
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:18 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

I hope someone has a good response to what I'm about to write. I don't mean
to rain on the parade of praise for off-site email, but I do have some
concerns with not having more control over the server.

What happens when a student's account gets abused by another student who has
stolen a password? Assuming that you can even get access to the logs that
track logins, read messages, etc..., if it happened during the school day
(or if you are a boarding school) the best info you will get is your public
WAN address. You'll have a bear of a time tracking those logins back to
particular machines on campus.

We've had this happen a few times here and within 15 minutes, I can
associate an email login to a computer on campus by IP and cross-reference
that with workstation logins and pretty quickly get a very short list of
students who were probably involved. No need to wait for Google to provide
the info (assuming they will even do that). In some cases, we've even
tracked the suspect logins to public IPs and have been able to cross
reference those with other logins from that IP and challenge the students to
a decent explanation of what our logs show.

We also have access to detailed message tracking for both internal and SMTP
messaging so that we can usually get the information we need pretty quickly
to solve problems.

I would be happy to save money go with an offsite solution, but I'd also
want to continue to have detailed tracking and reporting for tracking down
inappropriate use and troubleshooting. Do any of the off-site vendors off
this?

Christopher Butler


--
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Academic Technology Director
St. John's Preparatory School
Danvers, MA

On 4/9/08 3:42 PM, "Tom Phelan" <tphelan@PEDDIE.ORG> wrote:

> IMHO Google Apps is THE solution for those looking for a web-based email
> solution. We have been looking at Google Apps since Fall 2006, are
currently running a pilot with about 40 users, and will be switching over
the summer.
>
> With all due respect to your administrators, I hardly think their personal
> experiences with Gmail should be anything beyond one factor among many.
> Perhaps you administrators might like the price...free! Furthermore, no
> matter what you switch to some will like it and some won't. It doesn't
make sense for the personal preference of a few to outweigh all other
considerations.
>
> Don't forget Google Calendar, Google Start, Google Docs, and Google Sites.
> While you probably won't be jumping into these on day one, all of them
show a lot of promise for education use. Also, Google Apps is very well
> positioned as ubiquitous broadband becomes a reality and more and more
users have Internet connected phones/mobile devices.
>
> Sorry I didn't have time for more specifics...

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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

I hope someone has a good response to what I'm about to write. I don't mean
to rain on the parade of praise for off-site email, but I do have some
concerns with not having more control over the server.

What happens when a student's account gets abused by another student who has
stolen a password? Assuming that you can even get access to the logs that
track logins, read messages, etc..., if it happened during the school day
(or if you are a boarding school) the best info you will get is your public
WAN address. You'll have a bear of a time tracking those logins back to
particular machines on campus.

We've had this happen a few times here and within 15 minutes, I can
associate an email login to a computer on campus by IP and cross-reference
that with workstation logins and pretty quickly get a very short list of
students who were probably involved. No need to wait for Google to provide
the info (assuming they will even do that). In some cases, we've even
tracked the suspect logins to public IPs and have been able to cross
reference those with other logins from that IP and challenge the students to
a decent explanation of what our logs show.

We also have access to detailed message tracking for both internal and SMTP
messaging so that we can usually get the information we need pretty quickly
to solve problems.

I would be happy to save money go with an offsite solution, but I'd also
want to continue to have detailed tracking and reporting for tracking down
inappropriate use and troubleshooting. Do any of the off-site vendors off
this?

Christopher Butler


--
Christopher Butler
Academic Technology Director
St. John's Preparatory School
Danvers, MA

On 4/9/08 3:42 PM, "Tom Phelan" <tphelan@PEDDIE.ORG> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC
> <Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:
>
>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>> Caveats: NONE
>>
>> I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>> recommendation with the following caveats:
>> --My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
>> currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
>> service when administrators used it for personal email.
>> --We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
>> Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
>> --We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
>> time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
>> functionality when used on different platforms.
>>
>
>
> IMHO Google Apps is THE solution for those looking for a web-based email
> solution. We have been looking at Google Apps since Fall 2006, are currently
> running a pilot with about 40 users, and will be switching over the summer.
>
> With all due respect to your administrators, I hardly think their personal
> experiences with Gmail should be anything beyond one factor among many.
> Perhaps you administrators might like the price...free! Furthermore, no
> matter what you switch to some will like it and some won't. It doesn't make
> sense for the personal preference of a few to outweigh all other
> considerations.
>
> Don't forget Google Calendar, Google Start, Google Docs, and Google Sites.
> While you probably won't be jumping into these on day one, all of them show
> a lot of promise for education use. Also, Google Apps is very well
> positioned as ubiquitous broadband becomes a reality and more and more users
> have Internet connected phones/mobile devices.
>
> Sorry I didn't have time for more specifics...

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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

Thank you all. Google is the obvious winner, but I am simply an advisor
board member and one of many voices.

_J
___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Phelan
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:42 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution
(UNCLASSIFIED)

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC
<Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:

>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
>Caveats: NONE
>
>I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>recommendation with the following caveats:
>--My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
>currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the
gmail
>service when administrators used it for personal email.
>--We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
>Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
>--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
>time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
>functionality when used on different platforms.
>


IMHO Google Apps is THE solution for those looking for a web-based email
solution. We have been looking at Google Apps since Fall 2006, are
currently
running a pilot with about 40 users, and will be switching over the
summer.

With all due respect to your administrators, I hardly think their
personal
experiences with Gmail should be anything beyond one factor among many.
Perhaps you administrators might like the price...free! Furthermore, no
matter what you switch to some will like it and some won't. It doesn't
make
sense for the personal preference of a few to outweigh all other
considerations.

Don't forget Google Calendar, Google Start, Google Docs, and Google
Sites.
While you probably won't be jumping into these on day one, all of them
show
a lot of promise for education use. Also, Google Apps is very well
positioned as ubiquitous broadband becomes a reality and more and more
users
have Internet connected phones/mobile devices.

Sorry I didn't have time for more specifics...

--=20
Tom Phelan
Director of Technology
Peddie School
tphelan@peddie.org
Voice: 609.944.7625
Fax: 609.944.7913
http://www.peddie.org

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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

I have found that in some school setting the idea of f free
applications is almost a strike against them. It is as if
administrators can not believe that Linux, Google applications and
other such offerings can or should be free. I one such school which
was constantly pleading poverty I suggested a number of such free
application including OpenOffice all my attempts were rejected.

Greg
On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Tom Phelan wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC
> <Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:
>
>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>> Caveats: NONE
>>
>> I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>> recommendation with the following caveats:
>> --My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
>> currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the
>> gmail
>> service when administrators used it for personal email.
>> --We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
>> Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
>> --We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
>> time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences
>> in
>> functionality when used on different platforms.
>>
>
>
> IMHO Google Apps is THE solution for those looking for a web-based
> email
> solution. We have been looking at Google Apps since Fall 2006, are
> currently
> running a pilot with about 40 users, and will be switching over the
> summer.
>
> With all due respect to your administrators, I hardly think their
> personal
> experiences with Gmail should be anything beyond one factor among
> many.
> Perhaps you administrators might like the price...free! Furthermore,
> no
> matter what you switch to some will like it and some won't. It
> doesn't make
> sense for the personal preference of a few to outweigh all other
> considerations.
>
> Don't forget Google Calendar, Google Start, Google Docs, and Google
> Sites.
> While you probably won't be jumping into these on day one, all of
> them show
> a lot of promise for education use. Also, Google Apps is very well
> positioned as ubiquitous broadband becomes a reality and more and
> more users
> have Internet connected phones/mobile devices.
>
> Sorry I didn't have time for more specifics...
>
> --
> Tom Phelan
> Director of Technology
> Peddie School
> tphelan@peddie.org
> Voice: 609.944.7625
> Fax: 609.944.7913
> http://www.peddie.org
>
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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC
<Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:

>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>Caveats: NONE
>
>I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>recommendation with the following caveats:
>--My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
>currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
>service when administrators used it for personal email.
>--We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
>Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
>--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
>time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
>functionality when used on different platforms.
>


IMHO Google Apps is THE solution for those looking for a web-based email
solution. We have been looking at Google Apps since Fall 2006, are currently
running a pilot with about 40 users, and will be switching over the summer.

With all due respect to your administrators, I hardly think their personal
experiences with Gmail should be anything beyond one factor among many.
Perhaps you administrators might like the price...free! Furthermore, no
matter what you switch to some will like it and some won't. It doesn't make
sense for the personal preference of a few to outweigh all other considerations.

Don't forget Google Calendar, Google Start, Google Docs, and Google Sites.
While you probably won't be jumping into these on day one, all of them show
a lot of promise for education use. Also, Google Apps is very well
positioned as ubiquitous broadband becomes a reality and more and more users
have Internet connected phones/mobile devices.

Sorry I didn't have time for more specifics...

--
Tom Phelan
Director of Technology
Peddie School
tphelan@peddie.org
Voice: 609.944.7625
Fax: 609.944.7913
http://www.peddie.org

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edACCESS 2008 Conference

Greetings Fellow ISEDers -

The rest of this message is a formal invitation to the edACCESS 2008
conference which says almost everything you need to know about the
conference. Not to sound like a hair club for men advertisement, but I
started going four years ago and by the end of the first conference, I
volunteered to be on the steering committee and I now help run the
conference. I've found the four days of the conference to be the best four
days of professional development I get every year.

If you have any questions about the conference, please feel free to email or
call me.

Christopher
--
Christopher Butler
Academic Technology Director
St. John's Preparatory School
Danvers, MA
------
Save $75 by registering for edACCESS 2008 now. Your payment of $505 must be
received by April 28 to receive our early registration rate. Don't delay and
have to pay more, register today!

[there was a nice picture of St. Andrew's School here, but the listserv
software doesn't like pictures :-(]

edACCESS 2008, our 17th annual conference!
June 23 - 26, 2008
St. Andrew's School, Middletown, Delaware
To register for the conference, go to http://www.edaccess.org/conf_9.php

In 2008 we are returning to the beautiful 2,200 acre campus of St. Andrews's
School in Middletown, Delaware, where the movie "Dead Poets Society", with
Robin Williams and Ethan Hawke, was filmed in 1989. Read the essential
details below, with full information on our web site:
http://www.edacess.org. And don't forget our pre-conference resource, the
edACCESS wiki (see below).

Topical Sessions
Demo Showcase: Bring the Excitement Home!
Moderators: JT Amirault Groton School, MA and Bill Campbell
<campbb@d-e.org>, Dwight-Englewood School, NJ
This session, brought back by popular demand from last year's conference but
with all new content, will provide many easy ways to bring some of the
conference excitement home. Presenters will provide an assortment of ten to
fifteen minute demonstrations that showcase a variety of useful ideas and
techniques. You'll be able to reproduce some of the demonstrations
post-conference by following written instructions posted on the edACCESS
wiki. The goal of this session is to expose you to at least one useful
technique or tool you can demonstrate back at your school. Please contact
Bill if you are interested in offering a demonstration at this session.

Instructional Integration Progress Report: Where have we been? What worked?
What didn't work? Where are we going?
Presenters: Joel Backon, Choate Rosemary Hall, CT and Trevor Shaw,
Dwight-Englewood School, NJ

Schools have struggled with the idea of integrating computing technology
into their curricula for almost twenty years. The past five years have
provided the most activity and potential for improving teaching and
learning. Some schools have implemented top-down approaches to technology
integration in the form of one-to-one initiatives. A few of those programs
have been highly successful and there have been some casualties. Other
schools have used a grassroots approach, and tried to meet the needs of
students and teachers despite significant financial constraints. Members of
this panel will talk about their approaches to technology integration,
describing both their successes and failures. Case studies will focus on
organization and staffing, professional development, and assessment of
results. Panelists will discuss the history of programs at Choate Rosemary
Hall and Dwight-Englewood School. They will also be asked to speculate on
where technology integration and faculty professional development will be in
the next five years. Will some teachers be working in Second Life worlds,
dedicated to Web 2.0 technologies, using new approaches to differentiated
instruction, or all of the above? What are the pending challenges for the IT
Director and the Academic Dean? How do we maximize the potential that many
educators see, but still eludes the mainstream educational world?

The Systematic Development of Informed Consent
Presenter: Adrian Segar

Have you struggled to get your school community to go along with a sound
plan you have developed for an important initiative at your school? Have you
seen your efforts torpedoed by a small determined opposition, or felt
frustrated trying to successfully communicate the need for your worthy
project? In this session, Adrian Segar, using a case study of his biggest
failure as an independent IT consultant for a school, will explain what
you've probably been doing wrong, and describe what you need to do to
successfully develop informed consent for your proposal. Based on thirty
years of research by Hans and Annemarie Bleiker, founders of the Institute
of Participatory Management and Planning, the methods outlined in this
session have been used successfully by over thirty thousand professionals
from hundreds of federal, state, and local government agencies.

Virtualization--What is it, and does it live up to the hype?
Moderator: Bill Walsh, Western Reserve Academy

In this session we will introduce, discuss, and demonstrate desktop, server,
and storage virtualization on multiple platforms (Linux, Windows, and
Macintosh) as well as some proprietary solutions. We will also provide
several detailed examples of server and storage virtualization on both
commercial and open source platforms. These examples will include up front
costs, ROI calculations, and even power savings. We will cover the pros and
cons of server and storage virtualization, as well as how to avoid some
common stumbling blocks and misconceptions when using this technology.

All the other great stuff:
- Vendor exhibits
- Focus groups - half the conference this year, always a highlight.
- Softball game
- Beer and wine tasting
- Amazing, yet tasteful, memorabilia

Conference information
When: Monday, June 23 - Thursday, June 26, 2008.
Where: St. Andrew's School, (285 students, 60 faculty) located on 2,200
acres in Middletown, Delaware.
Travel information: St. Andrew's School is near the Wilmington train and bus
stations (Amtrak & Greyhound, 30 minutes drive), and the Philadelphia (PHL,
60 minutes drive) and Baltimore Washington (BWI, 90 minutes drive) airports.
Directions to the school can be found at:
http://www.standrews-de.org/admission/visiting.cfm.

Accommodations and facilities: To keep the conference cost low, student
dormitory, single or double room accommodation is included in the conference
registration fee. We expect to be able to provide single rooms to most
attendees, but supplies are limited and will be supplied on a first-come,
first-served basis. Linens and towels are provided, but private bathrooms
and air-conditioning are not available. Alternately you may make your own
arrangements for accommodation off campus. A list of nearby hotels is
available on the edACCESS web site
Internet access is available at many places throughout the conference site,
and wireless connected laptops will be available for focus group scribes.
Late registrants are advised to call before making travel arrangements.

To register for the conference, go to http://www.edaccess.org/conf_9.php

If you have additional questions that the Web site can't answer, please
contact the appropriate liaison from the list below.
* St. Andrew's School, accommodations and registrations: Peter Hoopes
phoopes@standrews-de.org, (302) 285-4234
* Vendor Relations: Christopher Butler cbutler@stjohnsprep.org (978)
774-1050 ext. 255
* edACCESS membership: Nancy Price, price@marlboro.edu, (802) 258-9252
Wiki: If you have registered for this or any other prior edACCESS
conference, you can access our conference wiki (registration required) at:
http://edaccess.editme.com. Here you can browse 2006 & 2007 conference
discussions and resource links, discuss topics of interest, and suggest
focus group topics for the 2008 conference.

edACCESS 2008 conference registration
Includes conference attendance, accommodations Monday evening through
Thursday afternoon, plus all meals, from dinner Monday through dinner
Thursday.

Cost
Standard registration . . . . . . . . . . . .Paid in full before April 28
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$ 505
OR
Late registration . . . . . . . . . . . . ..... .At the door, subject to
space available. . . . . .. . . . .$ 580
edACCESS 2008 spouse/significant other meals and accommodations . . . . .
. . . . . . .$ 200

Refunds of conference registrations can be made, less a $50 processing fee,
before June 1.
No refunds can be provided after this date.


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Re: ISED-L Digest - 7 Apr 2008 to 8 Apr 2008 (#2008-86)

I am out of the office until April 8.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2008

Technology positions at National Cathedral School, Washington, DC

Two positions to announce:

POSITION: Network and Database Administrator
SCHOOL: National Cathedral School for Girls, Washington, D.C.

National Cathedral School announces a search for a full-time Network and
Database Administrator. The successful candidate has the opportunity to
work technically in an educational community that values integration of
technology in the classroom as well as in the day-to-day operations of
the school. Responsibilities include maintaining servers, managing
network resources, developing a multitude of databases, and supporting
colleagues in the admissions, advancement, communications, and business
offices. Members of the technology team at NCS enjoy the collaboration
of a school-wide department of six members, plan training programs for
faculty and staff, and teach girls how to develop technology as well as
use it.=20

POSITION: Director of Information Technology
SCHOOL: National Cathedral School for Girls, Washington, D.C.

National Cathedral School announces a search for a full-time Director of
Information Technology. The successful candidate directs the strategic
development and use of technology in order to support the priorities of
the school. The director also works closely with teachers and curricular
leaders on integration of technology in the classroom. In offering a
vision about creative uses of technology in the future, the director
must be resourceful and able to communicate effectively with technical
as well as non-technical audiences. Members of the technology team at
NCS enjoy the collaboration of a school-wide department of six members
and teach girls how to develop technology as well as use it.=20


The full job postings are available online at:

http://www.ncs.cathedral.org/podium/default.aspx?t=3D12918


Christopher Childs
Director of Educational Technology
National Cathedral School

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Re: Job Posting - reply error

Ooops! one of those reply faux pas.

Sorry everyone (and especially Jane)

John

John Moore
Director of Technology, Sheridan School, Washington, DC

Tel Direct: 202 895 0250 x120 Fax: 202 244 9696
www.sheridanschool.org

'Be the change you want to see in the world.' --Mahatma Gandhi


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Re: Photo Sharing

We use Community Server which handles our blog, forums and photo
archiving.
It has a security hook to an ldap server for simplified user/group
management.

www.communityserver.com


Jason Hyams
Director of Technology =20
St. Agnes Academy

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Lisa Sjogren
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:58 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Photo Sharing

I know this has been discussed before but it appears I have deleted =20
that email.

Does anyone know of a solution in which we can encourage our parents =20
to upload pictures of school events online to share with others?

Thanks,
Lisa

---
Lisa Sjogren
Director of Technology
St. Raphael's Catholic School

763-504-9450, ext. 311
763-504-9460, fax

lisa.sjogren@srsmn.org
My Blog: http://lisasjogren.srsmn.org

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Re: Job Posting

Hi Jane

How are you? It's been really hectic recently and I am just catching up on
listserv emails ;)

Does this mean you are moving on or have just managed to restructure and
get the role you were looking for? Will you get to spend more time with
the kids?

I am still looking for Vermont based job opportunities. I was at
Middlebury University for a job interview recently as Help Desk support
manager ... interesting but a little 'narrow' for what I am looking for..
and they were looking for a more immediate start than I could commit too.

Is the job still open? If so can you share what the salary range/ballpark
for this would be? I know it will not be the same as I get down here, but
money is not everything, eh?

Cheers

John

John Moore
Director of Technology, Sheridan School, Washington, DC

Tel Direct: 202 895 0250 x120 Fax: 202 244 9696
www.sheridanschool.org

'Be the change you want to see in the world.' --Mahatma Gandhi

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>The Putney School, a progressive secondary boarding school, has an opening
>for a Director of Technology. The job provides considerable scope for
>innovative leadership within a forward looking educational community.
>
>The Director will:
>
> 1. Oversee school-wide data structures, policies and procedures;
> 2. Provide vision and strategic direction to the department;
> 3. Oversee and manage technology staff;
> 4. Work with all major departments (i.e. Development, Admissions, etc.)
>to make the best use of technology
> 5. Manage budgets;
> 6. Oversee inventory and planned refresh of the infrastructure;
> 7. Develop and maintain a strategic plan (both academic and
>administrative);
> 8. Cultivate vendor relationships;
> 9. Be a portal into the rest of the technology world (i.e. professional
>development, site visits, staying current on new technologies and "best
>practices");
> 10. Act as an "internal consultant" to the Director, Trustees, faculty,
>students and parents.
> 11. Be able to step in where needed for network administration, solving
>problems as they arise, and working with teachers in the academic realm.
>
>The ideal candidate:
>
> * Has interest and demonstrated ability in an educational setting,
>sense of humor, flexibility, energy, collegiality, and the ability to work
>effectively with a team.
> * Has the ability to learn quickly and teach effectively
>
>Minimum requirements:
>
> 1. At least two years in a comparable supervisory and management
>position.
> 2. Excellent communication skills
>
>The Putney School seeks to promote diversity in its program and hiring. We
>recognize that a diverse faculty and staff is crucial to the success and
>continued relevance of the school.
>
>Please send a cover letter, resume and list of references by April 10,
>2008 to:
>
>Emily Jones, Director
>ejones@putneyschool.org
>or
>The Putney School
>418 Houghton Brook Road
>Putney, VT 05346
>
>Jane Baker
>Director of Technology
>The Putney School
>Putney, VT 05346
>http://www.putneyschool.org
>
>
>
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Re: Filemaker help

"Tim Cooper" <tcooper@lrei.org> writes:
>Have you considered using tabs (new feature in 8.0 or so) - they look like
>like tabs in firefox? You could have each db on a tab or a set of tabs?
>Are you running Filemaker Server?
Unfortunately we're still at version 6, so no tabs!

:) Laurie

Laurie Yalem
Technology Coordinator
Churchill Center & School for Learning Disabilities
1021 Municipal Center Dr.
Town & Country, MO 63131
314-997-4343
lyalem@churchillstl.org
www.churchillstl.org

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Re: Filemaker help

Have you considered using tabs (new feature in 8.0 or so) - they look like
like tabs in firefox? You could have each db on a tab or a set of tabs?
Are you running Filemaker Server?

Tim Cooper
LREI

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>school and now I'd like to roll them into one and call it a home-grown
>Student Information System. Instead of my usual boring buttons, I'd like
>to branch out a bit. Would anyone be willing to send me a screen shot of
>a not too complex layout that might work? I want to give access to about
>10 different DB. Thanks.
>
>:) Laurie
>
>Laurie Yalem
>Technology Coordinator
>Churchill Center & School for Learning Disabilities
>1021 Municipal Center Dr.
>Town & Country, MO 63131
>314-997-4343
>lyalem@churchillstl.org
>www.churchillstl.org
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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

You don't have to live with the google interface, you can use gmail
with IMAP or POP if you like.

Greg
On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC wrote:
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
>> May I ask what the negative experiences with personal email were?
>
> One does not like the interface and prefers Yahoo's mail. The other
> had
> their account compromised and used to commit fraud on eBay. I am more
> concerned with the dislike of the interface.
>
> _J
>
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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

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Photo Sharing

I know this has been discussed before but it appears I have deleted
that email.

Does anyone know of a solution in which we can encourage our parents
to upload pictures of school events online to share with others?

Thanks,
Lisa

---
Lisa Sjogren
Director of Technology
St. Raphael's Catholic School

763-504-9450, ext. 311
763-504-9460, fax

lisa.sjogren@srsmn.org
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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

I would echo these sentiments. We just switched over one month ago and are
quite pleased with the experience.

Peter

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Jennifer Davenport <
jdavenport@saddleriverday.org> wrote:

> We've deployed Google Apps with great success - it was the perfect
> solution given our needs when we made the switch. If you change your mind
> or are able to convince administrators otherwise, I'd be happy to talk to
> you about our migration. Any problems we've had with it have been on our
> end (mostly in ISP uptime and aging infrastructure) - our uptime has been
> 100%, IMAP migration worked swimmingly, and converting address books took
> very little time and was very easy. Those willing to learn learned GApps
> VERY quickly and have grown to adore it (especially GChat and Calendaring).
> Those unwilling to leave their traditional clients haven't had to be
> forced. It supports IMAP and POP, and therefore most mail clients. There
> will always be detractors to changes in software, but overall, it was a
> smart move for us and has saved us time and money.
>
> Jen
>
>
>
> Keith E Gatling wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC <
> > Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > > Caveats: NONE
> > >
> > > I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
> > > recommendation with the following caveats:
> > > --My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
> > > currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the
> > > gmail
> > > service when administrators used it for personal email.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > May I ask what the negative experiences with personal email were?
> >
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--
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Director of Technical Services
Rutgers Preparatory School
1345 Easton Avenue
Somerset, NJ 08873

732-545-5600

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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

We've deployed Google Apps with great success - it was the perfect
solution given our needs when we made the switch. If you change your
mind or are able to convince administrators otherwise, I'd be happy to
talk to you about our migration. Any problems we've had with it have
been on our end (mostly in ISP uptime and aging infrastructure) - our
uptime has been 100%, IMAP migration worked swimmingly, and converting
address books took very little time and was very easy. Those willing to
learn learned GApps VERY quickly and have grown to adore it (especially
GChat and Calendaring). Those unwilling to leave their traditional
clients haven't had to be forced. It supports IMAP and POP, and
therefore most mail clients. There will always be detractors to changes
in software, but overall, it was a smart move for us and has saved us
time and money.

Jen

Keith E Gatling wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC <
> Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:
>
>
>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>> Caveats: NONE
>>
>> I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>> recommendation with the following caveats:
>> --My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
>> currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
>> service when administrators used it for personal email.
>>
>
>
> May I ask what the negative experiences with personal email were?
>
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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

>May I ask what the negative experiences with personal email were?

One does not like the interface and prefers Yahoo's mail. The other had
their account compromised and used to commit fraud on eBay. I am more
concerned with the dislike of the interface.

_J

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Jason,

Here are two e-mail systems that you can purchase hosted solutions for:

http://www.kerio.com/kms_price.html


and

http://www.zimbra.com/

Both are pretty nice. I like the zimbra UI better.

- Alex

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>Caveats: NONE
>
>I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
>recommendation with the following caveats:
>--My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
>currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
>service when administrators used it for personal email.
>--We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
>Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
>--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
>time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
>functionality when used on different platforms.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>_J
>
>___________________________________
>
>Jason Johnson - Program Director
>Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
>9001:2000 certified)
>Office: 202-782-1047
>Cell: 202-262-0516
>jason.johnson@ingenium.net
>jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil
>
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>Caveats: NONE
>
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+++++++++++++++++++++
Alex Ragone
Director of Technology
Collegiate School
New York, NY
212-812-8695

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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC <
Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> wrote:

> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
> recommendation with the following caveats:
> --My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
> currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
> service when administrators used it for personal email.


May I ask what the negative experiences with personal email were?

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Technology position open at Alexandria Country Day

We have an opening in our Technology Department at Alexandria Country
Day School, a K-8 independent, co-educational day school in Northern
Virginia with strong support for technology. The position is full
time,10 month and would report to the Director of Technology. We are
looking for someone with teaching experience plus a good basic
understanding and some hands on experience with help desk types of
solutions to fill this newly defined position. If you know of anyone who
might be interested and fit the bill, please contact me.

thanks,
sherry

Sherry Ward
Director of Technology
Alexandria Country Day School
2400 Russell Road
Alexandria, VA 22301
703-837-1317 sward@acdsnet.org


-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnson, Jason P Mr
WRAMC_Wash DC
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:33 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
recommendation with the following caveats:
--My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
service when administrators used it for personal email.
--We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
functionality when used on different platforms.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

_J

___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Jason,

Although we use Exchange I have heard good things about gaggle.net from area

Susan D. Smith
Director of Technology
Wyoming Seminary
201 North Sprague Ave.
Kingston Pa. 18704
570-270-2245
Fax: 570-270-2199
ssmith@wyomingseminary.org

> From: "Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC" <Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil>
> Reply-To: A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:33:24 -0400
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> Conversation: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Subject: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)
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> I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
> recommendation with the following caveats:
> --My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
> currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
> service when administrators used it for personal email.
> --We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
> Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
> --We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
> time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
> functionality when used on different platforms.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> _J
>
> ___________________________________
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> Jason Johnson - Program Director
> Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
> 9001:2000 certified)
> Office: 202-782-1047
> Cell: 202-262-0516
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> jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil
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Re: Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

We use gaggle.net for our students. Very user friendly and inexpensive.=20

Garry Clum Jr
Network Manager
=A0
St. Paul Academy and Summit School
1712 Randolph Avenue
St. Paul, MN 55105
651-696-1497
gclum@spa.edu
www.spa.edu


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Caveats: NONE

I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
recommendation with the following caveats:
--My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
service when administrators used it for personal email.
--We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
functionality when used on different platforms.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

_J

___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20


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Looking for Browser Based Hosted Email Solution (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

I wondered if anyone has a good web browser-based, hosted email
recommendation with the following caveats:
--My initial recommendation was Google's education solution but it is
currently out of the running due to negative experiences with the gmail
service when administrators used it for personal email.
--We have a host that can provide web based access to mail using
Squirrel mail but no one likes the overall interface.
--We are not considering a hosted Microsoft Exchange solution at this
time, mostly due to its comparatively high cost and the differences in
functionality when used on different platforms.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

_J

___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20


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Filemaker help

I'm not a developer or a guru, but I have made several databases for my
school and now I'd like to roll them into one and call it a home-grown
Student Information System. Instead of my usual boring buttons, I'd like
to branch out a bit. Would anyone be willing to send me a screen shot of
a not too complex layout that might work? I want to give access to about
10 different DB. Thanks.

:) Laurie

Laurie Yalem
Technology Coordinator
Churchill Center & School for Learning Disabilities
1021 Municipal Center Dr.
Town & Country, MO 63131
314-997-4343
lyalem@churchillstl.org
www.churchillstl.org

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Monday, April 7, 2008

The Gender Dimension of Sustainable Development

FYI ....

The following have been posted this year:

Solidarity, Sustainability, and Nonviolence V4 N1 January 2008
Theme: The Religious Dimension of Sustainable Development

http://pelicanweb.org/solisustv04n01.html

Solidarity, Sustainability, and Nonviolence V4 N2 February 2008
Theme: The Spiritual Dimension of Sustainable Development

http://pelicanweb.org/solisustv04n02.html

Solidarity, Sustainability, and Nonviolence V4 N3 March 2008
Theme: The Human Dimension of Sustainable Development

http://pelicanweb.org/solisustv04n03.html

Just posted:

Solidarity, Sustainability, and Nonviolence V4 N4 April 2008
Theme: The Gender Dimension of Sustainable Development

http://pelicanweb.org/solisustv04n04.html

In preparation:

Solidarity, Sustainability, and Nonviolence V4 N5 May 2008
Theme: The Nuptial Dimension of Sustainable Development

http://pelicanweb.org/solisustv04n05.html

Questions:

CAN YOU SUGGEST OTHER DIMENSIONS?

CAN YOU SUGGEST QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS?


Sincerely,
Luis

Luis T. Gutierrez, PhD
Editor, SSNV Research Newsletter
http://pelicanweb.org/solisust.html

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