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Wednesday, July 8, 2009

Re: Student Computers on LCD Projector

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Social Networking guidelines

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:54:18 -0500
>From: Ademola Popoola <popoola@gmail.com>
>Subject: Social Networking Best Practices for Teachers
>
>All,
>Does anyone have a policy outlining best practices of personal use of
>social
>networking sites for their faculty they're willing to share?
>Thanks,
>A. Popoola
>Sacred Heart Schools

Ademola,
We are a PreK-Grade 8 elementary school. Like many schools, we've grappled
with the difficulties and issues that arise with the use of online social
communities in the online world where privacy is eroded and there are no
boundaries. We developed the guidelines below for our faculty/staff
handbook for this fall. You are welcome to use any portion of this which
you find of value.

Best regards,
Doug Fodeman
ChildrenOnline.org
================================
Douglas Fodeman
Director of Technology
Brookwood School
Manchester, MA 01944
http://www.Brookwood.edu
(978) 526-4500 X6233
================================

Guidelines for Faculty and Staff Use of Social Networks

1. CLASS USE OF SOCIAL NETWORKING: New social networking tools and
features are being continually introduced which may or may not be
appropriate for course or student use. Social networks, even those
designed for education, give rise to unique concerns and inherent dangers
related to their use. In order to provide healthy, age-appropriate use of
social networks, faculty are asked to submit all requests for
school-sanctioned online social tools to the Division Heads Committee for
review.

2. MODEL APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR: Faculty should always exercise appropriate
discretion and professionalism with all online communications and postings
(friends, colleagues, parents, former students, etc.) since their behavior
on social networks may not be private.

3. FRIENDING ALUMNI: Although Brookwood encourages faculty to keep in
touch with alumni, faculty should be aware that such contact via the
Internet presents unique challenges and risks. Faculty should be aware
that the following conditions are all possible in communications online,
especially in social networks:

a) Current Brookwood students may be friends of alumni online, and
therefore the current students may see faculty posts to the alum accounts.

b) If current Brookwood students are friends of alumni online, those
students may also have indirect access to the faculty member's social
network account, depending on the privacy settings of the faculty member.

c) Photos or videos of faculty members that are tagged by others may be
available to anyone searching social networks.

d) Social networks have become commonplace locations for deception and
loss of privacy.

We recommend that faculty carefully review their privacy settings and
exercise care when posting content and information in their online
profiles. Faculty may wish to regularly review their personal pages,
especially when content is posted by others. As in all social situations,
faculty members should remember that, as teachers, they represent
Brookwood School. People can draw conclusions, however erroneous, based
on online activities which may affect their perceptions of your
professionalism.

4. PUBLIC INFORMATION: Given the open nature of the Internet, and social
networks in particular, it would be prudent for faculty to use social
networks as if none of their content is private, including photos and
videos.

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Re: Student Computers on LCD Projector

Check out the Class Spot product from Tidebreak. Simple drag and drop
cross platform screen sharing. Saw this at InfoComm in June and was
mightily impressed, will be piloting this and their Team Spot product this
year. They have been mostly in the higher ed space, and seemed surprised
by growing interest from folks like us.

Curt Lieneck

> Try Twitter or simple text messaging....nothing to hook up.
>
> Norman
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Bill Griscom
> Sent: Tue 7/7/2009 11:13 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: Student Computers on LCD Projector
>
>
>
> Renee,
>
> If you need a way to have the student push the image without the teacher's
> involvement, I'm not sure what would work best. If the teacher can just
> highlight the computer from a list and project it, you may want to look at
> Synchroneyes. It works very well for this. You may also want to consider
> iTalc, which is a free option.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Griscom
>
> Director of Information Services
> Lancaster Country Day School
> 725 Hamilton Road
> Lancaster, PA 17603-2491
> 717.392.2916 x. 246
> griscomb@lancastercountryday.org
> Visit my blog @ https://talk.e-lcds.org/users/griscomb/
>
>
>>>> Renee Ramig <rramig@sevenhillsschool.org> 6/22/2009 10:31 PM >>>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> My middle school science teacher is getting a whole new science center
> this summer, and he wants tech to be like "Minority Report." :)
>
> One thing I am not sure how to do easily is this:
>
> Students will be working on experiments and one of them will want to look
> up something online. They grab a laptop, find something, and then they
> want to quickly share it with the rest of the class on the LCD projector.
>
> The way we do it now, is the student copies the link to the student share
> folder, goes over to the teacher computer that is hooked up to the LCD
> projector, opens up the share folder and clicks on the link.
>
> Is there a way to do this more easily? Is there any quick way to screen
> share from a student computer to a teacher computer? Or, is there a way
> to set up wireless VGA that any computer can connect to on the fly?
>
> One other caveat is that we decide on computer platform based on what best
> supports curriculum. For our science class this means a Mac running OSX.5
> for the teacher, 6 PCs running XP Pro, 6 Macs running OSX.4 for the
> students.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>
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Re: Student Computers on LCD Projector

Try Twitter or simple text messaging....nothing to hook up.
=20
Norman

________________________________

From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Bill Griscom
Sent: Tue 7/7/2009 11:13 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Student Computers on LCD Projector

Renee,

If you need a way to have the student push the image without the =
teacher's involvement, I'm not sure what would work best. If the teacher =
can just highlight the computer from a list and project it, you may want =
to look at Synchroneyes. It works very well for this. You may also want =
to consider iTalc, which is a free option.

Regards,

Bill Griscom

Director of Information Services
Lancaster Country Day School
725 Hamilton Road
Lancaster, PA 17603-2491
717.392.2916 x. 246
griscomb@lancastercountryday.org
Visit my blog @ https://talk.e-lcds.org/users/griscomb/

>>> Renee Ramig <rramig@sevenhillsschool.org> 6/22/2009 10:31 PM >>>
Hi Everyone,

My middle school science teacher is getting a whole new science center =
this summer, and he wants tech to be like "Minority Report." :)

One thing I am not sure how to do easily is this:

Students will be working on experiments and one of them will want to =
look up something online. They grab a laptop, find something, and then =
they want to quickly share it with the rest of the class on the LCD =
projector.=20

The way we do it now, is the student copies the link to the student =
share folder, goes over to the teacher computer that is hooked up to the =
LCD projector, opens up the share folder and clicks on the link.

Is there a way to do this more easily? Is there any quick way to screen =
share from a student computer to a teacher computer? Or, is there a way =
to set up wireless VGA that any computer can connect to on the fly?

One other caveat is that we decide on computer platform based on what =
best supports curriculum. For our science class this means a Mac =
running OSX.5 for the teacher, 6 PCs running XP Pro, 6 Macs running =
OSX.4 for the students.

Thanks,

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Re: creating Home Directories for AD clients

Hi there,

With our "Golden Triangle" set up we set the users home directory in
Active Directory (which gives an error about not being able to
pre-create the home directory {this is because we purposefully DIDN'T
give the write privileges on the home folder share as Active Directory
incorrectly creates the folder permissions and buggers everything up})
then we go onto the xServe storing the home folders and use the
command line tool "createhomedir" which will run through Active
Directory read all the user home directory locations and make the
folders for us with the correct initial settings we just have to add
any extra ACE/ACL we need on the end in Server Manager:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21050?viewlocale=en_US

James ;)

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GIT/MU/U dpu s: a--> C++>$ U+> L++> B-> P+> E?> W+++>$ N K W++ O M++>$ V-
PS+++ PE++ Y+ PGP t 5 X+ R- tv+ b+> DI D+++ G+ e(+++++) h--(++) r++ z++
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Re: Student Computers on LCD Projector

Renee,

If you need a way to have the student push the image without the teacher's =
involvement, I'm not sure what would work best. If the teacher can just =
highlight the computer from a list and project it, you may want to look at =
Synchroneyes. It works very well for this. You may also want to consider =
iTalc, which is a free option.

Regards,

Bill Griscom

>>> Renee Ramig <rramig@sevenhillsschool.org> 6/22/2009 10:31 PM >>>
Hi Everyone,

My middle school science teacher is getting a whole new science center =
this summer, and he wants tech to be like "Minority Report." :)

One thing I am not sure how to do easily is this:

Students will be working on experiments and one of them will want to look =
up something online. They grab a laptop, find something, and then they =
want to quickly share it with the rest of the class on the LCD projector. =
=20

The way we do it now, is the student copies the link to the student share =
folder, goes over to the teacher computer that is hooked up to the LCD =
projector, opens up the share folder and clicks on the link.

One other caveat is that we decide on computer platform based on what best =
supports curriculum. For our science class this means a Mac running OSX.5 =
for the teacher, 6 PCs running XP Pro, 6 Macs running OSX.4 for the =
students.

Thanks,

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

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creating Home Directories for AD clients

Please excuse the cross post

We need to add the class of 2013 to the Active Directory. Students'
Home Directories reside on one of two XServes. Last year when we
transitioned to the "Golden Triangle" the engineer set up the servers
and moved the student directories from Windows servers to the
Xserves. When we try to add in these new students we get a
permissions error when the AD attempts to create the Directory on the
Xserve.

I would appreciate any help .

thanks

Carl Campion
Director of Academic Technology
Archmere Academy
302-798-6632x823

Social Networking Best Practices for Teachers

All,

Does anyone have a policy outlining best practices of personal use of social
networking sites for their faculty they're willing to share?

Thanks,

--
A. Popoola
Sacred Heart Schools

Re: Corrupted DNS Entry

Is the domain Active Directory integrated? If not, you should be able to s=
ee the zone files in %SYSTEMROOT%\System32\DNS, and from there delete it.

S
---
Steven Dickenson <sdickenson@keyschool.org>
Computer Network Manager
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-
> L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Renee Ramig
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:37 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Corrupted DNS Entry
>=20
> Hi Everyone,
>=20
> I need help from some of the more techie people out there.
>=20
> I did not have a content filter installed this past year, so I messed aro=
und
> with creating new DNS entries on my Windows 2003 server to basically have
> users go to nowhere when they tried to go to specific websites.
>=20
> One of the entries (for facebook) is now corrupt. I just want to go in a=
nd
> delete it, but nothing I do in DNS will allow me to access the entry in a=
ny
> way, including to delete it. I get a red X and a message that says Zone =
Not
> Loaded by DNS Server. I cannot access the properties. When I try to del=
ete
> it, I get the message "The zone cannot be delete. Access was denied.) (=
I am
> logged in directly to the server where I created the dns record.)
>=20
> Does anyone know how to delete this out of the registry using regedit? Or=
is
> there some other way to force the DNS server to delete this corrupted DNS
> entry?
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>=20
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Re: Extended closing

Hi,
I am currently on summer break, but will be checking my e-mail every
few days. I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Have a great summer break!
~Amy Ward

Re: Extended closing

How do you like Alfresco with compared to Sharepoint Server? My school is
researching into implementing Sharepoint to share forms, guides, and general
handouts.

Brian Lee
Manlius Pebble Hill School

> From: Janet Thorson <janet.thorson@duchesne.org>
> Reply-To: <janet.thorson@duchesne.org>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:04:14 +0000
> To: <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Extended closing
>
> We have setup Moodle and alfresco to give us the capability for course
> continuation. For young learners parents will be trained on how to use the
> system. ALFRESCO will give us the ability for off-site file repository.
>
> Janet Thorson
> Duchesne Academy
> ------Original Message------
> From: Bernadette Roche
> Sender: A forum for independent school educators
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> ReplyTo: A forum for independent school educators
> Subject: Extended closing
> Sent: Jul 6, 2009 9:55 PM
>
> During the swine flu media blitz, there was quite a bit of talk here
> about what schools would do if/when they were forced to close for an
> extended period of time. Would any elementary and/or middle school be
> willing to share their plan for continuing learning during an extended
> period? We're updating our crisis plan and I would like some examples
> to share as we discuss the possibilities.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Bernadette Roche
>
>
>
> Director of Technology
>
> Oakhill Day School
>
> www.oakhilldayschool.org
>
> bernadette.roche@oakhilldayschool.org
>
> 816.436.6228
>
>
>
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Re: Extended closing

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Monday, July 6, 2009

Extended closing

During the swine flu media blitz, there was quite a bit of talk here
about what schools would do if/when they were forced to close for an
extended period of time. Would any elementary and/or middle school be
willing to share their plan for continuing learning during an extended
period? We're updating our crisis plan and I would like some examples
to share as we discuss the possibilities.

Thank you,

=20

Bernadette Roche

=20

Director of Technology

Oakhill Day School

www.oakhilldayschool.org

bernadette.roche@oakhilldayschool.org

816.436.6228

=20

Re: Gradebook software

Hi, Norm.
We've used GradeQuick Web for two years with no problems. (I do like =
that they are responsible for security and back-ups!) Our MAC users =
sometimes get confused, since the interface is sightly different, but =
that has been the extent of any problems. The flexibility and wide =
variety of reports make it very appealing for my faculty.=20
Even with the new BlackBaud version for small schools, it is still =
rather pricey for us. Is the support still iffy? I had heard some =
complaints in the last two years, which is too bad, since I remember it =
as outstanding.

Judith Claire Robison
Director of Technology
Saint John's Catholic Prep

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Norman =
Constantine
Sent: Mon 7/6/2009 2:34 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Gradebook software
=20
I have used GradeQuick and I think is leaves much to be desired. If you
use Blackbaud Education Edge Faculty Access is the way to go. The best
part of FA is that it is web based and can be used from anywhere.
GradeQuick has serious work at home issues though they may have been
fixed at this time.=20

Norman=20

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Judith Robison
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:03 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Gradebook software

Our teachers love GradeQuick. Volunteers tried 3 different gradebooks,
reported to the whole faculty who voted, and we've used GradeQuick for
the past 4 years.

Judith Claire Robison
St. John's Catholic Prep
Director of Technology=20
-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Bernadette Roche
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:52 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Gradebook software

At this time, we don't utilize any specific gradebook software, but
there has been an inquiry from a small group of teachers. My only
experience is with Integrade Pro and it wasn't a good one. Someone
mentioned Easy Grade Pro as a possibility. What other gradebook
programs have your teachers found particularly useful?

=20

Bernadette Roche

=20

Director of Technology

Oakhill Day School

www.oakhilldayschool.org

bernadette.roche@oakhilldayschool.org

816.436.6228

=20

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Re: Pen Pals

Renee -
You can find partners through organizations such as iEARN and ePals. I also
run an online community where people can find project partners:
http://globaleducation.ning.com.

Lucy Gray
Education Technology Specialist
Center for Elementary Math and Science Education
University of Chicago
http://cemse.uchicago.edu
773-702-2597
lucyg@uchicago.edu

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Renee Ramig <rramig@sevenhillsschool.org>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Do any of you have Pen Pals for your foreign language classes in
> elementary and /or middle school? If so, where do you find them? Are
> they native speakers?
>
> What about Pen Pals for other classes for elementary and middle school?
> Is anyone doing anything like this? If so, what grades, what subject
> area, and how are you organizing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>
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Pen Pals

Hi,

Do any of you have Pen Pals for your foreign language classes in
elementary and /or middle school? If so, where do you find them? Are
they native speakers?=20

What about Pen Pals for other classes for elementary and middle school?
Is anyone doing anything like this? If so, what grades, what subject
area, and how are you organizing this?

Thanks,

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

Re: Bandwidth Optimizing

Hi,

I have looked at NetEqualizer, but it doesn't have the filtering
capabilities as well as the specific user level services I need.

Thanks for the info on SonicWall.

Renee

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:48 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Bandwidth Optimizing

Have you looked at NetEqualizer?

I've used Sonicwall's bandwidth shaping in the past on several PRO
series appliances and found it wanting. Reporting was awful, too.

Jason Johnson has pretty good, if somewhat dated, firsthand experience
with the Cymphonix.

S
---
Steven Dickenson <sdickenson@keyschool.org>
Computer Network Manager
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-
> L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Renee Ramig
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:42 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Bandwidth Optimizing
>=20
> Hi Everyone,
>=20
> I am trying to decide on the best bandwidth optimization product for
my
> school. I have narrowed it down to three. I am looking for something
> that is appliance based, easy to use, and school friendly. If you use
> any of these, I would love your input on how well you think they work
to
> monitor and adjust access and bandwidth by group and user.
>=20
> Sonic Wall
> Marshall 8e6
> Cymphonix
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>=20
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Re: Corrupted DNS Entry

Renee:

Do you only have the one DNS server internally? If so, Ryan's
approach should do the trick...though I would only do this if you have
a full backup of the server including the system state. Never poke an
AD/DNS server with sticks unless you have a way of unpoking it.
Otherwise, you may have no network at all!

If not, you may need to repeat the procedures on the
secondary/downline internal DNS servers as well. The trick in a multi
DNS environment is to do the fix and take the server offline then
repeat the steps on the other server and only then bring them back
online...otherwise you may inadvertently replicate the corrupt entry.

I would also recommend reviewing the event logs for DNS on the server
to see if there is more going wrong (especially in a multi AD/DNS
server environment as this could be a DNS replication issue).

On 7/6/09, Ryan Fox <Ryan@tads.com> wrote:
> Renee,
>
> Fixing DNS corruption within Active Directory will be beyond the scope of my
> suggested solution, but give this a try:
>
> From the DNS Snap-in:
> Expand your forward zones
> Get the properties for the faulty zone
> On the General tab, ensure the Type is Primary
> (If it is Active Directory Integrated, click change and uncheck the box at
> the bottom)
>
> From the Service Snap-in:
> Locate DNS Server Service
> Right click and select Stop
>
> From Windows Explorer:
> Navigate to %SystemRoot%\System32\dns
> Delete the .dns file for the faulty zone
>
> From the Service Snap-in:
> Locate DNS Server Service
> Right click and select Start
>
> From the DNS Snap-in:
> Expand your forward zones
> Right click the faulty zone and select Delete
> (It 'should' allow you to delete it now)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan R. Fox
> TADS Technology Group
> www.tads.com
> 612.548.3333
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A forum for independent school educators
> [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Renee Ramig
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:37 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Corrupted DNS Entry
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I need help from some of the more techie people out there.
>
> I did not have a content filter installed this past year, so I messed around
> with creating new DNS entries on my Windows 2003 server to basically have
> users go to nowhere when they tried to go to specific websites.
>
> One of the entries (for facebook) is now corrupt. I just want to go in and
> delete it, but nothing I do in DNS will allow me to access the entry in any
> way, including to delete it. I get a red X and a message that says Zone Not
> Loaded by DNS Server. I cannot access the properties. When I try to delete
> it, I get the message "The zone cannot be delete. Access was denied.) (I
> am logged in directly to the server where I created the dns record.)
>
> Does anyone know how to delete this out of the registry using regedit? Or is
> there some other way to force the DNS server to delete this corrupted DNS
> entry?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>
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Re: Corrupted DNS Entry

Renee,

Fixing DNS corruption within Active Directory will be beyond the scope of m=
y suggested solution, but give this a try:

From the DNS Snap-in:
Expand your forward zones
Get the properties for the faulty zone
On the General tab, ensure the Type is Primary
(If it is Active Directory Integrated, click change and uncheck the box a=
t the bottom)

From the Service Snap-in:
Locate DNS Server Service
Right click and select Stop

From Windows Explorer:
Navigate to %SystemRoot%\System32\dns
Delete the .dns file for the faulty zone

From the Service Snap-in:
Locate DNS Server Service
Right click and select Start

From the DNS Snap-in:
Expand your forward zones
Right click the faulty zone and select Delete
(It 'should' allow you to delete it now)

Thanks,
Ryan R. Fox
TADS Technology Group
www.tads.com
612.548.3333

=09

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.=
EDU] On Behalf Of Renee Ramig
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:37 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Corrupted DNS Entry

Hi Everyone,

I need help from some of the more techie people out there.

I did not have a content filter installed this past year, so I messed aroun=
d with creating new DNS entries on my Windows 2003 server to basically have=
users go to nowhere when they tried to go to specific websites.

One of the entries (for facebook) is now corrupt. I just want to go in and=
delete it, but nothing I do in DNS will allow me to access the entry in an=
y way, including to delete it. I get a red X and a message that says Zone =
Not Loaded by DNS Server. I cannot access the properties. When I try to d=
elete it, I get the message "The zone cannot be delete. Access was denied.=
) (I am logged in directly to the server where I created the dns record.)

Does anyone know how to delete this out of the registry using regedit? Or i=
s there some other way to force the DNS server to delete this corrupted DNS=
entry?

Thanks,

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

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Re: Bandwidth Optimizing

Have you looked at NetEqualizer?

I've used Sonicwall's bandwidth shaping in the past on several PRO series a=
ppliances and found it wanting. Reporting was awful, too.

Jason Johnson has pretty good, if somewhat dated, firsthand experience with=
the Cymphonix.

S
---
Steven Dickenson <sdickenson@keyschool.org>
Computer Network Manager
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-
> L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Renee Ramig
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:42 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Bandwidth Optimizing
>=20
> Hi Everyone,
>=20
> I am trying to decide on the best bandwidth optimization product for my
> school. I have narrowed it down to three. I am looking for something
> that is appliance based, easy to use, and school friendly. If you use
> any of these, I would love your input on how well you think they work to
> monitor and adjust access and bandwidth by group and user.
>=20
> Sonic Wall
> Marshall 8e6
> Cymphonix
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>=20
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Bandwidth Optimizing

Hi Everyone,

I am trying to decide on the best bandwidth optimization product for my
school. I have narrowed it down to three. I am looking for something
that is appliance based, easy to use, and school friendly. If you use
any of these, I would love your input on how well you think they work to
monitor and adjust access and bandwidth by group and user.

Sonic Wall
Marshall 8e6
Cymphonix

Thanks,

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

Keep up with Professional Dev Hrs.

Friends,

We are trying to determine an easier way for our teachers to keep up with
their professional development hours for conferences, workshops, etc. I
was considering devising a FMPro database, but I was curious if there was
a better way or if there might already be someone "out there" with a
template that would be willing to share?

My administrator is envisioning a place where she can record various
meetings, workshops, conferences . . . and then the teachers could click
the ones they've attended, and the hours would be automatically calculated
and put in a form.

Thanks!
Gail Braddock
Technology Specialist
St. George's Independent School
www.sgis.org
--
"The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page."
Augustine (354-430 AD), philosopher

Corrupted DNS Entry

Hi Everyone,

I need help from some of the more techie people out there.

I did not have a content filter installed this past year, so I messed =
around with creating new DNS entries on my Windows 2003 server to =
basically have users go to nowhere when they tried to go to specific =
websites.

One of the entries (for facebook) is now corrupt. I just want to go in =
and delete it, but nothing I do in DNS will allow me to access the entry =
in any way, including to delete it. I get a red X and a message that =
says Zone Not Loaded by DNS Server. I cannot access the properties. =
When I try to delete it, I get the message "The zone cannot be delete. =
Access was denied.) (I am logged in directly to the server where I =
created the dns record.)

Does anyone know how to delete this out of the registry using regedit? =
Or is there some other way to force the DNS server to delete this =
corrupted DNS entry?

Thanks,

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

Re: Gradebook software

I have used GradeQuick and I think is leaves much to be desired. If you
use Blackbaud Education Edge Faculty Access is the way to go. The best
part of FA is that it is web based and can be used from anywhere.
GradeQuick has serious work at home issues though they may have been
fixed at this time.=20

Norman=20

Our teachers love GradeQuick. Volunteers tried 3 different gradebooks,
reported to the whole faculty who voted, and we've used GradeQuick for
the past 4 years.

=20

Bernadette Roche

=20

Director of Technology

Oakhill Day School

www.oakhilldayschool.org

bernadette.roche@oakhilldayschool.org

816.436.6228

=20

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Re: Gradebook software

Our teachers love GradeQuick. Volunteers tried 3 different gradebooks,
reported to the whole faculty who voted, and we've used GradeQuick for
the past 4 years.

=20

Bernadette Roche

=20

Director of Technology

Oakhill Day School

www.oakhilldayschool.org

bernadette.roche@oakhilldayschool.org

816.436.6228

=20

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Re: Free EdTech Unconference: Edubloggercon East in Boston July 28th

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and phone. If this is an emergincy please contact Roger Basham
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Re: Free EdTech Unconference: Edubloggercon East in Boston July 28th

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I'll reply to your message when I return.
Thank you.

Free EdTech Unconference: Edubloggercon East in Boston July 28th

Hi everyone,
I am helping to organize this conference (see below for info) and would love
to see you there! Please check out the wiki
<http://www.edubloggercon.com/BLC2009>or reply here with any questions.
-Liz

Liz Davis
Director of Academic Technology
Belmont Hill School
Belmont, MA
http://www.belmonthill.org
http://www.edtechpower.blogspot.com
http://www.twitter.com/lizbdavis

*EduBloggerCon - East Coast (at BLC<http://novemberlearning.com/blc/events/>
)* *Tuesday, July 28th, 2009* Boston Park Plaza Hotel and
Tower<http://novemberlearning.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&Itemid=126>,
Boston, MA
9am - 5pm: Come all day, or any part of it!

At the first annual EduBloggerCon in Atlanta on June 23, 2007 it was
suggested that regional EduBloggerCon events be held to expand
participation. In that spirit, the *Second (annual?) EduBloggerCon "East*"
is being planned (thanks to the generosity of Alan
November<http://www.novemberlearning.com/>)
just prior to, the Buliding Learning Communities Conference
(BLC09)<http://novemberlearning.com/blc/>

EduBloggerCon is based on the idea of an "unconference," and is being
organized by the participants in real time on this
wiki<http://www.edubloggercon.com/BLC2009>.
Another way to describe this event is as a "collaborative conference," where
the conference attendees help to build and create the experience.

Last year's unconference was a wonderful learning experience attended by
educators from all over the country. Here is the link to last year's
wiki.<http://www.edubloggercon.com/BLC2008>

Next Steps - Add yourself to the "I'm Attending"
Page<http://www.edubloggercon.com/EBCEast-Attending>,
and submit a session idea on the
Agenda<http://www.edubloggercon.com/EBCEast-Agenda>
.

Re: Free EdTech Unconference: Edubloggercon East in Boston July 28th

I will be away from school Friday, July 3 - Sunday, July 12. While away I
will have limited email access. I look forward to reading and responding
to your email when I return on Monday, July 13, 2009.

Warmly-

Mark

Wednesday, July 1, 2009

Re: FW: Join Thousands of Writers in the National Gallery of Writing

Dear Beth Lynne,I never did contribute or take from the Geocaching pot, but
I am thrilled that you are doing it. I also am eager to see what you guys
do with the SL island. I like SL for collaboration and exploration. I am
currently without employment, but I am working on my Master's online and am
looking for a thesis project. SL was an area I was thinking about, so I am
especially curious to hear what you have planned.

I was
happy to meet at the meeting the other evening and look forward to
seeing you in Denver.
Best of luck,
Ann

(from Fountain Valley School in Colorado Springs)

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> Beth Lynne Ritter-Guth
> Educational Communication and Technology Facilitator
> The Hotchkiss School
> 11 Interlaken Road
> Box 800
> Lakeville, CT 06039
> (860) 435-4445
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> http://hotchkissedtech.blogspot.com
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Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

I just wanted to add one thing - I tested a mini and noticed that the
apostrophe was right next to the space bar. When I was typing on it, I kept
hitting the enter key when I thought I was reaching for an apostrophe. It
really annoyed me. I gave it to a few kids to test and they agreed. I
asked the IT guys to find the smallest one with a standard keyboard on it
for our new carts for this coming year.
Michelle

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Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

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Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

One thing to consider is screen real estate for younger students. I =
bought a couple of different models of netbooks for my K-2 teachers to =
try, and all of them loved the keyboard and hated the screen size. It =
requires more scrolling for the kids, and this just slows them down. We =
actually went with full size laptops for our younger students. I think =
for our older students, the netbooks might work for certain situations, =
but right now we are still using full size with them too.

If you haven't already let your 1st and 2nd grade teachers try out the =
netbook you are considering, I would strongly suggest you do this (and =
let them use it with kids).

Renee Ramig

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Tom & =
Christina
Sent: Wed 7/1/2009 8:01 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity
=20
Thank you to all that gave input on the keyboard & dexterity question! =
The Head of School was impressed with the quick responses that were very =
insightful. Looks like we will probably go with the mini PCs for grades =
1 and 2 this coming year.

So who is going to invent that piece of hardware that lets all the =
students talk (to control their machines) in the classroom at the same =
time? LOL I envision cones of silence descending from the ceiling for =
each of us! Wonder if someone could put together a "classroom of the =
future" mockup on Sketchup or something similar? Could be a neat =
activity.

Thank you for the input,

Christina DiMicelli
Technology Integration Specialist
Hampstead Academy
Hampstead, NH

dimicelli@hampsteadacademy.org=20

Mac Specialist/Tech Support JOB OPPORTUNITY

Chadwick School in L.A. County, CA, is hiring:
Technical Support Specialist (Macintosh Focus)

Chadwick School seeks to hire a full-time Technical Support Specialist for
the 2009-10 school year. The ideal candidate should have experience with
Macintosh computers, including hardware and troubleshooting, as well as
software applications such as iLife, iWork, and Adobe Creative Suite.
Candidate is responsible for providing all areas of Tier 1 technical
support on computers, printers, copiers, A/V equipment and telephones;
training on basic computer usage and applications software to faculty and
staff; supervising student computer labs; and co-managing inventory of
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Chadwick School is an equal opportunity employer.

Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

Most of today's teenagers prefer texting to talking on the phone. I also th=
ink keyboarding will be with us for a while.

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.=
EDU] On Behalf Of Keith E Gatling
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:08 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

Ha! I'm betting that keyboarding will be with us for years to come. Sure, w=
e
talk to our friends all the time in person and on the phone, but we also
write to them. Each has their place, and it's awfully hard to edit when
you're speaking. Saying "Computer: go back three words and change x to y"
seems so much more cumbersome to me than just putting the mouse where I wan=
t
it to be and doing it by hand.

I'm betting that keyboarding will still be around by the time I retire in 1=
2
years.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Norman Maynard <
nmaynard@thorntonfriends.org> wrote:

> "If I were a betting person, I would wager that within the next few years
> there will be no need for students to make a transition from a mini
> keyboard
> to a standard one, i.e., from a netbook to a laptop, because" . . . all
> computers will have input devices that make input via one letter at a tim=
e
> obsolete. As in, we'll all be talking to one another, the way we used to,
> only it will be by voice /video via our very small computers.
>
> : )
>
> But maybe instead of being a bettor I am just an optimist? Or simply
> hopeful?
>
>
> In peace,
> *Norman Maynard*
> Interim Head of School
> *Thornton Friends School* <http://www.thorntonfriends.org/>
> Silver Spring, MD 20904
> 301.384.6672
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Ross Lenet <lenet@patriot.net> wrote:
>
> > If I were a betting person, I would wager that within the next few year=
s
> > there will be no need for students to make a transition from a mini
> keyboard
> > to a standard one, i.e., from a netbook to a laptop, because netbooks
> will
> > have replaced laptops in schools that have adopted or are thinking abou=
t
> > adopting laptops.
> >
> > I say this because I see netbooks as solving what I still regard as one
> of
> > the peskiest issues with traditional laptops: their relatively hefty si=
ze
> > and weight. If the trend in netbooks continues, their weight will
> eventually
> > be measured in ounces rather than pounds. This will be huge. This could
> > finally allow all students to carry the thing comfortably and be able t=
o
> put
> > it in a locker comfortably. I see this as huge. There are already
> netbooks
> > out there that fit in a large pocket and weigh barely more than a pound=
.
> >
> > Yes, the ever-shrinking keyboard will not be ideal, but I suspect that
> > students will have larger computers at home and the tradeoff of size fo=
r
> > extreme portability will be too hard to resist. What I don't know is
> whether
> > netbooks will be just another stop on the road to even smaller devices
> that
> > students will routinely use.
> >
> > But as David said, everyone adapts.
> >
> > Ross Lenet
> > Sidwell Friends School
> >
> > [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
> > Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attributio=
n,
> > non-commercial, share-alike license.
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> >
>
>
>
> In peace,
> *Norman Maynard*
> Interim Head of School
> *Thornton Friends School* <http://www.thorntonfriends.org/>
> Silver Spring, MD 20904
> 301.384.6672
>
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>

Computer Teacher Opening

Teaching Vacancy starting in the fall, 2009-2010

Academic Computer Teacher
Dana Hall School, an independent girls'school, grades 6-12, seeks a
10-month Academic Computer Teacher beginning in the 2009-10 school year.
This is a4/5 faculty position with the possibility of being full time.
This individual is responsible for teaching the technology/computer
science curriculum, including:

· the sixth-grade computer class using software that includes, but
is not limited to, Microsoft Office, iLife, Inspiration, and the iSafe
internet safety program.
· the required half-credit Upper School course, Fundamentals of
Computing, that establishes proficiency in Microsoft Word, Excel, and
PowerPoint and exposes students to computer science using the Alice
programming language or other similar program(s).

Other responsibilities include:
· Advise the Robotics Club and the Audio-Visual Club
· Supervise the Technology Lab
· Work with the Director of Academic Technology to define the
Academic Computer curriculum and oversee the design and administration of
the computer proficiency test
· Help advise the School's S.T.E.M. Committee.
· Serve as an advisor to a group of students, and fulfill other
defined responsibilities as a member of the Dana Hall School community
· Possible other responsibilities, such as coaching, that would
increase the position to full time.

Qualifications:
The candidate should be an experienced teacher who has expertise using
computer applications in an academic setting. A Bachelor's degree in
Computer Science and experience teaching computer science programs such as
Alice, BlueJ and JAVA are preferred.
Please email cover letter and resume to [ mailto:HR@danahall.org
]HR@danahall.org

Marci Van Inwagen
Director of Academic Technology
Dana Hall School
45 Dana Road
Wellesley, MA 02482
marci.vaninwagen@danahall.org
Office Direct 781-489-1966
On Campus Ext. 2691

Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

I don't think voice will replace keyboards anytime soon, but it will augment
the keyboard entry in a more efficient manner. Sometimes I like to keep my
thoughts private instead of letting everyone around the room listen to my
emails. Would you voice dictate your emails while your students are in the
room?

Sort of like Star Trek TNG if we want to get futuristic. Even with voice
activation capabilities, they all had consoles to control the ships
activities. Though I do remember a scene in Star Trek DS9 where a teenager
(Jake Sisko) writes a whole book via dictation in the privacy of his apt.

As for the Netbook keyboards, look at the Acer Aspire One 751h series ($370
for 6hr battery, $340 for 3hr battery). It's a 11.6" LCD Screen, and you
get a full size keyboard. With the 10" screen, I feel like I am view the
web through a mail slot because I am scrolling left/right/up/down on a
consistent basis. The new generation of Netbooks are coming out with
11"-12" screens.

Brian Lee
Manlius Pebble Hill School

> From: Susan Ferris <susanferris123@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:05:02 -0400
> To: <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity
>
> I think Norman is right---this transition to voice will happen sooner
> than we think!
> We are so much closer than just a few years ago...
> Susan Ferris
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Norman
> Maynard<nmaynard@thorntonfriends.org> wrote:
>> "If I were a betting person, I would wager that within the next few years
>> there will be no need for students to make a transition from a mini keyboard
>> to a standard one, i.e., from a netbook to a laptop, because" . . . all
>> computers will have input devices that make input via one letter at a time
>> obsolete. As in, we'll all be talking to one another, the way we used to,
>> only it will be by voice /video via our very small computers.
>>
>> : )
>>
>> But maybe instead of being a bettor I am just an optimist? Or simply
>> hopeful?
>>
>>
>> In peace,
>> *Norman Maynard*
>> Interim Head of School
>> *Thornton Friends School* <http://www.thorntonfriends.org/>
>> Silver Spring, MD 20904
>> 301.384.6672
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Ross Lenet <lenet@patriot.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If I were a betting person, I would wager that within the next few years
>>> there will be no need for students to make a transition from a mini keyboard
>>> to a standard one, i.e., from a netbook to a laptop, because netbooks will
>>> have replaced laptops in schools that have adopted or are thinking about
>>> adopting laptops.
>>>
>>> I say this because I see netbooks as solving what I still regard as one of
>>> the peskiest issues with traditional laptops: their relatively hefty size
>>> and weight. If the trend in netbooks continues, their weight will eventually
>>> be measured in ounces rather than pounds. This will be huge. This could
>>> finally allow all students to carry the thing comfortably and be able to put
>>> it in a locker comfortably. I see this as huge. There are already netbooks
>>> out there that fit in a large pocket and weigh barely more than a pound.
>>>
>>> Yes, the ever-shrinking keyboard will not be ideal, but I suspect that
>>> students will have larger computers at home and the tradeoff of size for
>>> extreme portability will be too hard to resist. What I don't know is whether
>>> netbooks will be just another stop on the road to even smaller devices that
>>> students will routinely use.
>>>
>>> But as David said, everyone adapts.
>>>
>>> Ross Lenet
>>> Sidwell Friends School
>>>
>>> [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
>>> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution,
>>> non-commercial, share-alike license.
>>> RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In peace,
>> *Norman Maynard*
>> Interim Head of School
>> *Thornton Friends School* <http://www.thorntonfriends.org/>
>> Silver Spring, MD 20904
>> 301.384.6672
>>
>> [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
>> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution,
>> non-commercial, share-alike license.
>> RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L
>>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

Ha! I'm betting that keyboarding will be with us for years to come. Sure, we
talk to our friends all the time in person and on the phone, but we also
write to them. Each has their place, and it's awfully hard to edit when
you're speaking. Saying "Computer: go back three words and change x to y"
seems so much more cumbersome to me than just putting the mouse where I want
it to be and doing it by hand.

I'm betting that keyboarding will still be around by the time I retire in 12
years.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Norman Maynard <
nmaynard@thorntonfriends.org> wrote:

> "If I were a betting person, I would wager that within the next few years
> there will be no need for students to make a transition from a mini
> keyboard
> to a standard one, i.e., from a netbook to a laptop, because" . . . all
> computers will have input devices that make input via one letter at a time
> obsolete. As in, we'll all be talking to one another, the way we used to,
> only it will be by voice /video via our very small computers.
>
> : )
>
> But maybe instead of being a bettor I am just an optimist? Or simply
> hopeful?
>
>
> In peace,
> *Norman Maynard*
> Interim Head of School
> *Thornton Friends School* <http://www.thorntonfriends.org/>
> Silver Spring, MD 20904
> 301.384.6672
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Ross Lenet <lenet@patriot.net> wrote:
>
> > If I were a betting person, I would wager that within the next few years
> > there will be no need for students to make a transition from a mini
> keyboard
> > to a standard one, i.e., from a netbook to a laptop, because netbooks
> will
> > have replaced laptops in schools that have adopted or are thinking about
> > adopting laptops.
> >
> > I say this because I see netbooks as solving what I still regard as one
> of
> > the peskiest issues with traditional laptops: their relatively hefty size
> > and weight. If the trend in netbooks continues, their weight will
> eventually
> > be measured in ounces rather than pounds. This will be huge. This could
> > finally allow all students to carry the thing comfortably and be able to
> put
> > it in a locker comfortably. I see this as huge. There are already
> netbooks
> > out there that fit in a large pocket and weigh barely more than a pound.
> >
> > Yes, the ever-shrinking keyboard will not be ideal, but I suspect that
> > students will have larger computers at home and the tradeoff of size for
> > extreme portability will be too hard to resist. What I don't know is
> whether
> > netbooks will be just another stop on the road to even smaller devices
> that
> > students will routinely use.
> >
> > But as David said, everyone adapts.
> >
> > Ross Lenet
> > Sidwell Friends School
> >
> > [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
> > Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution,
> > non-commercial, share-alike license.
> > RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L
> >
>
>
>
> In peace,
> *Norman Maynard*
> Interim Head of School
> *Thornton Friends School* <http://www.thorntonfriends.org/>
> Silver Spring, MD 20904
> 301.384.6672
>
> [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution,
> non-commercial, share-alike license.
> RSS Feed, http://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?RSS&L=ISED-L
>

Re: Netbook keyboard & dexterity

Thank you to all that gave input on the keyboard & dexterity question! =
The Head of School was impressed with the quick responses that were very =
insightful. Looks like we will probably go with the mini PCs for grades =
1 and 2 this coming year.

Thank you for the input,

Christina DiMicelli
Technology Integration Specialist
Hampstead Academy
Hampstead, NH

dimicelli@hampsteadacademy.org