Re: sophos question

This is true. Depending on how you have your clients get updates, it can
slow down Windows machines (Macs are different.)

We love the product as well except for our classroom laptops where we have
the ET call home syndrome -- long delays while Sophos does its thing.

Andrew J. Speyer
Director of Information Technology Services
Choate Rosemary Hall
333 Christian Street
Wallingford, CT 06492
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On 12/19/07 4:23 PM, "Dickenson, Steven" <sdickenson@keyschool.org> wrote:

> I've heard that Sophos' client can be heavy on resources, however I have
> no first hand experience with the product. Just be sure to do a load
> test with your systems and make sure they can handle the memory
> requirements of the app.
>
> S
>
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> From: A forum for independent school educators
> [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: sophos question
>
> Friends,
> We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
> Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
> anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
> any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
> knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
> solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
> a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
> removal of the old a/v software).
> Thanks,
> Demetri
>
> ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
> about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
> mark :)
>
> Demetri Orlando
> Battle Ground Academy
> Franklin, TN
> demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org
>
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Re: Key cards in dorms

"Happy" -- it was dumped on us for a project. But it works! GE Secure
Perfect. Uses proximity cards that replaced our student IDs.

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On 12/17/07 12:57 AM, "Allyn Bushlow" <abushlow@rlstevenson.org> wrote:

> Anyone out there happy with a keycard entry system in their dorms?
> Looking for a card swipe or proximity key card entry system, similar to
> what's used in hotels. Success stories or systems to stay away from are
> appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Allyn Bushlow
> Director of Technology
> Stevenson School
> 3152 Forest Lake Road
> Pebble Beach, CA 93953
> 831-625-8395
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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

Spook:

My experience has been that logging in wirelessly is less than
reliable. This year we are 100% committed to Portable Home
Directories on all wireless clients. Via WGM the home directories
sync at log in and log out. Using John DeTroye's tips and Tricks I
have customized what is sync'd. It took some doing with the Exchange
Server files and the Apple Mail app. (I'll save that rant for later).
If the students allow the syncing to do what it wants things work
well. We do allow them to make as many mobile accounts as needed but
we encourage them to try and use the same iBooK/MacBook whenever
possible. Yes, students have lost data but overall things work pretty
well.

In the art building all the workstations are connected via ethernet.
We use the "traditional" network accounts.

All computers have static addressing.

Carl Campion
Director of Academic Technology
Archmere Academy
Claymont, DE

On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Charles Hilgartner wrote:

> We have a laptop cart that has 30 laptops. We are continuing to have a
> problems with the connections being dropped when they are logged
> off and
> sit till the next day. Some come up and some don't. If I sign on as a
> local user and reconnect everything works fine. The students are
> logging
> on as managed accounts in opened directory. If the connection is lost,
> the student can't sign on. Any ideas would help.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Spook Hilgartner
> Cristo Rey Jesuit High School
> Baltimore
>
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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

Hi Spook,

Thanks for the reply. I suspect there are two different causes of
the problems you reported, please see my reply yesterday to Glen on
this thread for further information.

HTH,

Mark

On Dec 27, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Charles Hilgartner wrote:

> What are you using for a wireless access point for these laptops?
> D-Link POE Access Points
>
> Are you configured so that your users are using OS X Server?
> automounted home directories?
> Yes
>
>

Mark Nelson
Director of Information Technology
Thayer Academy
745 Washington Street
Braintree, MA. 02184

voice: 781-664-2264
fax: 781-380-0515
email: mnelson@thayer.org

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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

Another possible avenue to explore (we had a similar sounding issue with
PCs) is the length of the DHCP lease. When we had to shorten our lease
time the problems occurred with greater frequency.

David Held
Director of Technology
Poughkeepsie Day School
360 Boardman Rd.
Poughkeepsie, NY 12603

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Hilgartner
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:04 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: MacBooks and Wireless problem

We have a laptop cart that has 30 laptops. We are continuing to have a
problems with the connections being dropped when they are logged off and
sit till the next day. Some come up and some don't. If I sign on as a
local user and reconnect everything works fine. The students are logging
on as managed accounts in opened directory. If the connection is lost,
the student can't sign on. Any ideas would help.

Thanks in advance.

Spook Hilgartner
Cristo Rey Jesuit High School
Baltimore

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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

What are you using for a wireless access point for these laptops?
D-Link POE Access Points

Are you configured so that your users are using OS X Server? =20
automounted home directories?
Yes

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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

Spook,

A couple of questions in order to assist you:

On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Charles Hilgartner wrote:

> We have a laptop cart that has 30 laptops. We are continuing to have a
> problems with the connections being dropped when they are logged =20
> off and
> sit till the next day. Some come up and some don't. If I sign on as a
> local user and reconnect everything works fine.

> The students are logging
> on as managed accounts in opened directory. If the connection is lost,
> the student can't sign on. Any ideas would help.

Are you configured so that your users are using OS X Server =20
automounted home directories?

Mark

>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Spook Hilgartner
> Cristo Rey Jesuit High School
> Baltimore
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Braintree, MA. 02184

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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

Glen,

On Dec 26, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Glen Worthing wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have been having the same problem at our school but it's not
> only with
> wireless, wired units are doing it as well. We were using Apple
> Airport
> Base Stations and now we have an Xirrus A/B/G wireless network
> running. The
> units (25) in the lab that are wired are connected through Netgear
> 10/100
> switches. We are using Workgroup Manager as well in an OS 10.4
> (server &
> client) environment running eMac's, iMac's and MacBooks.
>
> Same type of setup I would assume. We do have the home directories
> automount.

There are two separate issues at play here.

1. Apple recommends a minimum client computer connection speed of
100MB in order to successfully automount users' home directories;
under current wireless protocols it is not possible to meet this
baseline and as such Apple does not recommend automounting users'
home directories via a wireless connection. It is possible to
automount via wireless, however performance will be quite slow and
progressively become slower and more problematic as more laptops
attempt to automount via a single wireless access point.

For the past several years we have had our student laptops configured
for auotmounting users' home directories for those instances when
users wished to connect a laptop to the network via a wired port,
with the recommendation that when using the laptop in a wireless mode
they should login via a generic local account and then use the
Connect to Server.. item in Finder to access documents in their home
directories. Unfortunately several of our user groups have not
followed this recommendation and have complained about unacceptable
performance via wireless home directory logins. We found that none
of these laptops were being connected via wired connections and as a
result during this Winter Recess break we have reconfigured our
laptops so as to not use automounted home directories logins, all use
will now be via generic local logins on each laptop.

2. We too have been battling what I term the 'stuck connection'
issue reported by Spook; user logs out but still shows as an active
disabled/asleep AFP connection in the Server Admin pane with the user
not being allowed to login from another computer due to already being
logged in from another computer. Sometimes a restart of the client
computer will resolve the issues, sometimes not - requiring a manual
disconnect in the Server Admin pane. We have also observed the
problem to be more prevalent on Intel vs. PPC Macs.

We have been able to reduce (but not eliminate) the 'stuck
connection' issue by implementing several AFP tuning techniques, the
best source of information for these tuning techniques can be found
at http://www.afp548.com/

The value we adjusted at the cli level
that seems to have had the most impact was afp:reconnectTTLInMin =
1440 (the default setting) down to afp:reconnectTTLInMin = 10. We
will be readjusting this down to 5 minutes during the Winter Recess
break.

Hope This Helps,

Mark

Mark Nelson
Director of Information Technology
Thayer Academy
745 Washington Street
Braintree, MA. 02184

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System Engineer and Developer

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Choate Rosemary Hall, a nationally and internationally recognized
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To qualify you must have two to five year's experience implementing and
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Director of Information Technology Services
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[help desk] 203.697.2572
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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

Hi,

We have been having the same problem at our school but it's not only with
wireless, wired units are doing it as well. We were using Apple Airport
Base Stations and now we have an Xirrus A/B/G wireless network running. The
units (25) in the lab that are wired are connected through Netgear 10/100
switches. We are using Workgroup Manager as well in an OS 10.4 (server &
client) environment running eMac's, iMac's and MacBooks.

Same type of setup I would assume. We do have the home directories
automount.

Solution is always to just have the student restart the computer before
he/she tries to login but that's a pain when you have very limited time in
class with them.

Thanks,

Glen Worthing
Director of Technology
St. Anne's Episcopal School
Denver, CO

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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

I'm away from School until Wednesday, the 2nd.
I'll reply to your message when I return.
Thank you.
Thank you.

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Re: MacBooks and Wireless problem

Spook,

A couple of questions in order to assist you:

On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Charles Hilgartner wrote:

> We have a laptop cart that has 30 laptops. We are continuing to have a
> problems with the connections being dropped when they are logged
> off and
> sit till the next day. Some come up and some don't. If I sign on as a
> local user and reconnect everything works fine.

What are you using for a wireless access point for these laptops?

> The students are logging
> on as managed accounts in opened directory. If the connection is lost,
> the student can't sign on. Any ideas would help.

Are you configured so that your users are using OS X Server
automounted home directories?

Mark

>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Spook Hilgartner
> Cristo Rey Jesuit High School
> Baltimore
>
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Mark Nelson
Director of Information Technology
Thayer Academy
745 Washington Street
Braintree, MA. 02184

voice: 781-664-2264
fax: 781-380-0515
email: mnelson@thayer.org

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MacBooks and Wireless problem

We have a laptop cart that has 30 laptops. We are continuing to have a
problems with the connections being dropped when they are logged off and
sit till the next day. Some come up and some don't. If I sign on as a
local user and reconnect everything works fine. The students are logging
on as managed accounts in opened directory. If the connection is lost,
the student can't sign on. Any ideas would help.

Thanks in advance.

Spook Hilgartner
Cristo Rey Jesuit High School
Baltimore

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Re: ISED-L Digest - 20 Dec 2007 to 21 Dec 2007 (#2007-211)

Hockaday will be closed for Winter Break from December 21 through January
2. I will be checking email during this time. If you need immediate
assistance, please call the Hockaday main desk at 214-360-6351.

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Re: ISED-L Digest - 20 Dec 2007 to 21 Dec 2007 (#2007-211)

The School is closed for the winter vacation until January2nd. I will
respond to your email as soon as I can.

Thanks,

Ken Weinstein

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Re: sophos question - Why changing (UNCLASSIFIED)

Also, those of us working in the industry long enough remember the pains
of the old CA antivirus and backup products know to avoid them at all
costs. ARCServe was a great backup product, but not so good at the
restores!

Steven

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnson, Jason P Mr
WRAMC_Wash DC
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:58 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: sophos question - Why changing (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

There were a number of specific issues but as I recall the big ones
were:
-eTrust was approximately $14/user and Sophos was around $7/user. I may
be off a little on those numbers, but I do know that, at the time,
Sophos was half the cost.
-Sophos supported Macs and eTrust did not. eTrust has added mac support
but it is not as comprehensive as it's PC version (e.g. no pest patrol).
Sophos has had consistently strong Mac support for several years.
-eTrust support was average to poor, Sophos support was excellent.
eTrust (at the time) had a serious issue with Exchange. It would
constantly scan the shadow "M:" drive that Exchange creates as a
work-space. This caused significant Exchange problems. Excluding it
from the scan list worked but the exclusion would disappear based on
updates to Exchange, server patches, etc. So it had to be checked
everytime you made a change to the system or restarted it. I am told
this has been fixed but it caused me weeks of headaches diagnosing odd
Exchange issues and CA was not much help.

Over all, I found the eTrust management console and interface clunky.
Sopho is easy to use and understand out of the box and the data
collection it does on systems and ease of pushing out installs were
unexpected bonuses.=20

_Jason

___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20
-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Sister Elizabeth
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:03 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: sophos question - Why changing

Hi,

I've now seen at least two posts saying people are replacing eTrust with
Sophos. May I please ask why? Am I missing something?

Thank you,
=20
Sister Elizabeth
Powhatan School

>>> "Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC"
<Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> 12/20/2007 10:09 AM >>>
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

I did the same conversion going from eTrust to Sophos. The only issue
was that I had trouble with some newer XP computers. In every case it
was the same issue that Carlos mentioned (EM install account must have
admin rights on the clients). Sophos support was very responsive and
helped us figure it out. We had no performance issues.

_J
___________________________________

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Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil
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From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org=20

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Re: sophos question - Why changing (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

There were a number of specific issues but as I recall the big ones
were:
-eTrust was approximately $14/user and Sophos was around $7/user. I may
be off a little on those numbers, but I do know that, at the time,
Sophos was half the cost.
-Sophos supported Macs and eTrust did not. eTrust has added mac support
but it is not as comprehensive as it's PC version (e.g. no pest patrol).
Sophos has had consistently strong Mac support for several years.
-eTrust support was average to poor, Sophos support was excellent.
eTrust (at the time) had a serious issue with Exchange. It would
constantly scan the shadow "M:" drive that Exchange creates as a
work-space. This caused significant Exchange problems. Excluding it
from the scan list worked but the exclusion would disappear based on
updates to Exchange, server patches, etc. So it had to be checked
everytime you made a change to the system or restarted it. I am told
this has been fixed but it caused me weeks of headaches diagnosing odd
Exchange issues and CA was not much help.

Over all, I found the eTrust management console and interface clunky.
Sopho is easy to use and understand out of the box and the data
collection it does on systems and ease of pushing out installs were
unexpected bonuses.=20

_Jason

___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20
-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Sister Elizabeth
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:03 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: sophos question - Why changing

Hi,

I've now seen at least two posts saying people are replacing eTrust with
Sophos. May I please ask why? Am I missing something?

Thank you,
=20
Sister Elizabeth
Powhatan School

>>> "Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC"
<Jason.Johnson3@amedd.army.mil> 12/20/2007 10:09 AM >>>
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

I did the same conversion going from eTrust to Sophos. The only issue
was that I had trouble with some newer XP computers. In every case it
was the same issue that Carlos mentioned (EM install account must have
admin rights on the clients). Sophos support was very responsive and
helped us figure it out. We had no performance issues.

_J
___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil
-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org=20

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Re: sophos question - Why changing

Hi,

I've now seen at least two posts saying people are replacing eTrust with =
Sophos. May I please ask why? Am I missing something?

Thank you,
=20
Sister Elizabeth
Powhatan School

>>> "Johnson, Jason P Mr WRAMC_Wash DC" <Jason.Johnson3@amedd.=
army.mil> 12/20/2007 10:09 AM >>>
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

I did the same conversion going from eTrust to Sophos. The only issue
was that I had trouble with some newer XP computers. In every case it
was the same issue that Carlos mentioned (EM install account must have
admin rights on the clients). Sophos support was very responsive and
helped us figure it out. We had no performance issues.

_J
___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net=20
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20
-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU=20
Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org=20

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Re: sophos question (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

I did the same conversion going from eTrust to Sophos. The only issue
was that I had trouble with some newer XP computers. In every case it
was the same issue that Carlos mentioned (EM install account must have
admin rights on the clients). Sophos support was very responsive and
helped us figure it out. We had no performance issues.

_J
___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20
-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org

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Ivoy Tower to Meet Web 2.0 (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

If your looking for something to ponder over the winter break there is a
nice write up on technologies (not all are truly Web 2.0) and their use
in education. Ars Techica is a on-line technical journal, but it was
started by students in Harvard's Divinity school and has an interesting
educational bent (since most of them actually teach classes).

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071219-education-technology-old-d
ont-publish-wo-talking-to-nate.html

It is a broad critique of the EDUCAUSE 2007 Horizon report which is,
occasionally, worth reading itself.

http://www.nmc.org/pdf/2007_Horizon_Report.pdf

_J
___________________________________

Jason Johnson - Program Director
Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
jason.johnson@ingenium.net
jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

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Re: sophos question

I'm out of the office today. For immediate assistance, please call 310-377
-1543 and ask for the Technology Office. Thank you!

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Re: sophos question

I've implemented Sophos at two schools (in both cases replacing Symantec).

I have found it to be a wonderful multi-platform A/V solution with excellent
centralized management (for rollout, reporting, and remediation). When we
rolled it out, I asked for the tool to uninstall the previous A/V software
and was given clear, simple instructions and a few files to copy into the
central installation directory. The initial rollout worked beautifully.

I will echo the comments about load -- the only time the client software
puts any load on the computer is during the update. Other than that, it
seems to have less impact on the machine than other A/V software I have
used.

One other comment -- I have found on my MacBook that the on-access scanner
seems to interfere with some of Apple's digital editing tools (iMovie & iDVD
in particular). I have gotten in the habit of turning off on-access
scanning before doing serious work in either of those applications. I don't
know if you'll have the same problem with Windows Movie Maker.

One final note: I just read today in Information Week that GE has recently
replace over 350,000 seats of Symantec with Sophos.

Christopher

--
Christopher Butler
Academic Technology Director
St. John's Preparatory School
Danvers, MA
--

On 12/19/07 4:05 PM, "Demetri Orlando" <demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org>
wrote:

> Friends,
> We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
> Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
> anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
> any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
> knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
> solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
> a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
> removal of the old a/v software).
> Thanks,
> Demetri
>
> ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
> about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
> mark :)
>
> Demetri Orlando
> Battle Ground Academy
> Franklin, TN
> demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org
>
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> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution,
> non-commercial, share-alike license.

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Re: sophos question

Sophos can be heavy only at the time of update, once the updates are
downloaded to the computer it uses very little resources.

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:24 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: sophos question

I've heard that Sophos' client can be heavy on resources, however I have
no first hand experience with the product. Just be sure to do a load
test with your systems and make sure they can handle the memory
requirements of the app.

S

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN =20
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Re: sophos question

I've heard that Sophos' client can be heavy on resources, however I have
no first hand experience with the product. Just be sure to do a load
test with your systems and make sure they can handle the memory
requirements of the app.

S

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
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Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN =20
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org

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Re: sophos question

Demetri,

I implemented Sophos at Westwood Regional School District, Westwood NJ,
we had no problems deploying the software. The only issue to be aware
of is to make sure the account you create in the Sophos Enterprise
Console has administrator's rights on all the computers.

Carlos Ibarra
Director of Technology
Solomon Schechter School of Westchester

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:05 PM
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Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN =20
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org

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Re: sophos question

We just switched to Sophos a couple of weeks ago and learned that 98.5%
of incoming email was junk. I was receiving at least 100 junk email
messages a day [beyond what our old filter was catching]. Now I receive
2 or 3. I can live with that. We have several hundred clients.

=20
John W. Threlkeld
Graland Country Day School
30 Birch St.
Denver, CO 80220
=20
303-336-3759=20
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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Demetri Orlando
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:05 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
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Franklin, TN =20
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sophos question

Friends,
We're getting ready to switch 600 Windows clients from Computer
Associate's eTrust to Sophos for our enterprise
anti-virus/anti-spyware/application control solution. If anyone has had
any negative experiences with this product or migration I'd appreciate
knowing of it. From our research, demo, and client list, it seems a good
solution. The ISED archives show that Jason, Heather, and Roger gave it
a good report in November (with the one caveat about scripting the
removal of the old a/v software).=20
Thanks,
Demetri

ps. Thanks Arvind, Alex, Fred for the http://edtechtalk.com discussion
about the ning today. http://isenet.ning.com is getting close to the 500
mark :)

Demetri Orlando
Battle Ground Academy
Franklin, TN =20
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org

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Re: Ebooks

Our teachers use VitalBooks (http://www.vitalsource.com/) which comes
pre-loaded on our IBM laptops. The licensing comes with the lease of the
machine. The software also allows note-taking and highlighting.

On Dec 17, 2007 11:38 AM, Luthra, Shabbi <ITDirector@asbindia.org> wrote:

> Thanks, Demetri.
>
> Here are two more that I'm researching that you may want to add to the
> page.
>
> http://www.stenhouse.com/html/ebooks.htm
>
> http://udtprogram.com/udtp/k12/index.php
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Demetri
> Orlando
> Sent: Mon 12/17/2007 9:04 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: Ebooks
>
>
>
> Hi Shabbi,
> Thanks for your messages about tablets and ebooks. I just added a new
> wiki page that includes the names and ISBN numbers of a few full-text
> digital versions of texts we use here at BGA, and info I learned from a
> previous search. We are pursuing this for all or our upper school text
> books. I would appreciate others adding to this list of text books.
> http://schoolcomputing.wikia.com/wiki/Electronic_Books_and_Texts In case
> that URL gets broken, here is a shorter one: http://tinyurl.com/yst4uh I
> do hope others will add info or email a response to this query. I'd
> appreciate hearing what you find.
> Thanks!
> Demetri
> BGA
> demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org
> Tablet ning group: http://isenet.ning.com/group/tabletpcusers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luthra, Shabbi <ITDirector@asbindia.org>
> Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 3:57 am
> Subject: Ebooks
> Is anyone using ebooks? We are exploring their use. Does anyone have any
> guidance on publishers and licensing with using these on student owned
> tablets?
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What has Fred Bartels been writing about so much lately?

What is the Independent School Educators Network ning (http://isenet.ning.com)? How can you use it as a professional development activity?

Join Demetri Orlando and Fred Bartels for a conversation about the Independent School Educators Network ning tomorrow, December 19th at Noon EST at www.edtechtalk.com/chat.

For listening help go to http://www.edtechtalk.com/listen.

Happy Holidays to all.

- Alex

+++++++++++++++++++++
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Director of Technology
Collegiate School
New York, NY
212-812-8695

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Kitchen POS (Point of Sale) Systems with fingertip readers?

We are very small and independent school with a la carte kitchen menu. I'm
searching for a POS system that works with fingertip scanners. I would also
like parents to see itemized list of items purchased for each meal. POS
should be relatively easy for the kitchen staff to use. SIF agent is a plus.
Any suggestions? What do you use?

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Re: Auction Software

Take a look at Charity Auction, John Winter,
johnwinter@charityauctionhelp.com.=20

I attended one of their seminars and found them to be very helpful.

Ron Sipus
Village Christian Schools

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Schulte
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:06 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Auction Software

You might look at AuctionPro by MaestroSoft.
They have both a PC version (single and multi-user) as well as a web
option (I've not used the latter).

We've used it for at least 6 years. Does a good job. Only drawback is
that they are a small developer and bug fixes can be a little slow in
coming. The good news is that they've developed the program quite a bit
in the past few years so it's a workable tool as-is.

Good luck.

Bruce Schulte
Pacific Northern Academy

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Nick Sticklen
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:39 AM
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Subject: Auction Software

We currently use AuctionStar to run our annual school auction. The
program works well in some areas, but it also has some major drawbacks.
Does anyone have any recommendations on other auction software packages?
What are some benefits/drawbacks that you experience with your program?

=20

Thanks,

Nick Sticklen
Director of Technology
The Regis School of the Sacred Heart
7330 Westview Drive
Houston, TX 77055
email: nsticklen@theregisschool.org
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Re: Anyone using Student Response systems in the Classroom

Sandy:

We have huge success using Promethean's Activote system (part of their
Activclassroom and embedded in their IWB Activboard and software
Activprimary/Activstudio). The Activotes allow a teacher to either
pre-plan questions or do them on the fly. I find them invaluable to do
a check in the middle of a lesson to see if the class has understood the
topic being covered.

Building on the success and functionality of the Activotes, the next
iteration is the Activexpression. Activexpression is a multi-funtion
vote system, allowing multiple choice, short answers, symbols, etc.
Both the Activotes and Activexpression can be seen here:

http://www.prometheanworld.com/us/server/show/nav.4240

The great thing about Promethean is that they are an IWB company that
only focuses on education. All of their products, including the
software, voting system, boards, etc., are designed solely for
education! Both the IWB and voting systems have made a huge difference
in our classrooms K thru 12!

If you would like more information, don't hesitate to contact me directly!

Jeff Ritter
Director of Technology
St. John's School
2401 Claremont Ln.
Houston, TX 77019
713-850-4020

Sandy Rosenbaum wrote:
> We currently have a Classroom performance system by eInstruction which we've
> had for several years. I am looking to update our system. Our Science
> teachers have expressed interest in using a response system in their
> classrooms to obtain instant feedback. There seems to be a lot of e-clicker
> systems out there and I am not sure the benefits/drawbacks of each system.
> Does anyone have any recommendations on a student response system. Thanks
> for any information that you can share.
>
>
>
> Sandy Rosenbaum
>
> Educational Technology Coordinator
>
> Norwood School
>
> Bethesda, MD
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Re: Auction Software

You might look at AuctionPro by MaestroSoft.
They have both a PC version (single and multi-user) as well as a web
option (I've not used the latter).

We've used it for at least 6 years. Does a good job. Only drawback is
that they are a small developer and bug fixes can be a little slow in
coming. The good news is that they've developed the program quite a bit
in the past few years so it's a workable tool as-is.

Good luck.

Bruce Schulte
Pacific Northern Academy

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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:39 AM
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Subject: Auction Software

We currently use AuctionStar to run our annual school auction. The
program works well in some areas, but it also has some major drawbacks.
Does anyone have any recommendations on other auction software packages?
What are some benefits/drawbacks that you experience with your program?

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Director of Technology
The Regis School of the Sacred Heart
7330 Westview Drive
Houston, TX 77055
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Re: Alphasmarts anyone?

We would take them- I'll be back east next week.

Kathleen Maleski
Director of Admissions
Hillbrook School
Education for Hearts and Minds
300 Marchmont Drive
Los Gatos, CA 95032
(408) 356-6116 x 305
kmaleski@hillbrook.org
www.hillbrook.org

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Carol McGough
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Alphasmarts anyone?

Good morning,
We would love to have some of the Alphasmarts at Morristown-Beard School.
And I would be happy to pick them up at your convenience.
Carol McGough

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on
Monday, December 17, 2007 at 9:52 PM -0500 wrote:
>Hi there---
>We may be in a position to donate several (like 35 or so) working
>Alphasmarts.
>Do you know anyone who would be/is interested
>and
>able to pick them up in Northern NJ---about 20 minutes west of
>Newark---???
>Please contact me and let me know.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Susan Ferris Rights
>The Pingry School
>973-379-4550
>
>Susan Ferris Rights
>908-568-1884
>sfmr@comcast.net
>
>There is enough light for those whose wish is to see,
>and enough darkness for those who are of a contrary disposition.
>Pascal (1623-62)
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Re: Alphasmarts anyone?

Good morning,
We would love to have some of the Alphasmarts at Morristown-Beard School.
And I would be happy to pick them up at your convenience.
Carol McGough

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on
Monday, December 17, 2007 at 9:52 PM -0500 wrote:
>Hi there---
>We may be in a position to donate several (like 35 or so) working
>Alphasmarts.
>Do you know anyone who would be/is interested
>and
>able to pick them up in Northern NJ---about 20 minutes west of
>Newark---???
>Please contact me and let me know.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Susan Ferris Rights
>The Pingry School
>973-379-4550
>
>Susan Ferris Rights
>908-568-1884
>sfmr@comcast.net
>
>There is enough light for those whose wish is to see,
>and enough darkness for those who are of a contrary disposition.
>Pascal (1623-62)
>
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Re: TV in a new school building

Josh,

We put in a TV Studio as part of our construction/renovation which
opened in 2001. We also put in a media distribution system which this
connects through. CATV cabling was installed to every room so right now
we broadcast through that. Every teacher station has a TV tuner so we
can show any of the media through the computer and classroom projector.
You can however, also hook up a TV right to the TV drop. We also have a
broadcast cart which we can take to any TV drop in the building, plug in
and broadcast from that room. So we have two internal channels - one for
the TV Studio and one for the broadcast cart. It's not digital, but I am
now looking at what it would take to upgrade it, how that would impact
our network, etc.=20

As for a TV Studio, I would HIGHLY recommend it! The kids run a Morning
Show each day with the Daily Bulletin, announcements, sports segments,
etc. Since the TV studio is also a production studio, we run all sorts
of classes and special projects there. Right now, they are having
auditions for "BLS Idol" which are run in the TV studio. They edit and
broadcast the finalists for everyone to vote on. They create
"commercials" for different clubs to be run during the Morning Show. The
most popular was "The Carnation Tales", a five day "soap opera"
commercial to support the Valentines' Day flower sales. They created the
school profile/welcome video for the opening reception of our 10-year
accreditation visit. It was great -- they started with a "live"
broadcast and then went into the video. During "author" days in one
class, the kids dress up as their favorite author and give a
presentation. Now they do that in the TV studio and it's all recorded.
We have two broadcasters each day of the week and also have guest
broadcasters, especially new faculty and staff so the kids get to know
them. Then we have a technical team all organized by the student
producer.

This is just such a great opportunity for students. We've had students
get scholarshiops because of their experience in the studio and kids
going to college now to study this. C-Span was here last week with their
Campaign2008 bus and as part of the visit trained our kids in their
production studio. Our students have now formed their own club/company
"Wolfpack Productions". They broadcast all events from the auditorium,
the Alumni Association hires them to do all their events at school, they
negotiated an "exclusive contract" with the Head Master for all
broadcast rights at school (this was as much self preservation because
other groups were messing up their equipment and setups). They broadcast
the big pep rallies on the day before Thanksgiving from the big gym.
There is just so much the kids can do. They edit and post videos on the
web from all the events they cover.

Honestly, I just get out of the way and let them go. We've had one or
two issues with "appropriateness" and live comments, but they were
quickly resolved and the kids know they need to be professional. It's a
fabulous resource and I'm a big fan. You do want to get a company with
experience to spec out what is needed and put together the proper
equipment, cameras, lights and so on. You need a control room, too. We
renovated an old storage space when we created it. We also added a
teleprompter system a couple of years in and that's great. I'd really
recommend having that. AND get the wall painted chromacolor blue or
green!

Cathy Meany
Boston Latin School

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Joshua Sommermeyer
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:53 PM
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Subject: TV in a new school building

I am on the planning committee for a new school... One of the members of
the committee is sold on having a TV station for announcements and other
activities... do schools still put dedicated TV station equipment in the
building to broadcast in-house? Does it make more sense to have a
Digital TV station with streamed programming? What kind of hardware
would go into a "Digital TV Station"? I envision a mid-high end digital
video camera, a powerhouse computer, some stage lights, and a streaming
server somewhere on site... does this make sense?=20

=20

My vision is that there wouldn't even be any physical TVs in the
classrooms... just projectors in the classrooms.. and maybe a Plasma
display or 2 in common areas showing announcements, pictures,
what-not...

=20

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Technology Director

Concordia Lutheran High School

sommermeyerj@concordiacrusaders.org

281.351.2547

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Re: TV in a new school building

Joshua,

We have recently updated our broadcast room and added a network
component that allows us to save the programs as well as stream the
video to our catv equipment. We have also upgraded the catv plant
allowing us to remote broadcast from any room that has a catv
connection.

If you would like to come by and look at the setup send me an email
offline.

Jason Hyams
St. Agnes Academy
Houston, Texas

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From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Joshua Sommermeyer
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:53 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: TV in a new school building

I am on the planning committee for a new school... One of the members of
the committee is sold on having a TV station for announcements and other
activities... do schools still put dedicated TV station equipment in the
building to broadcast in-house? Does it make more sense to have a
Digital TV station with streamed programming? What kind of hardware
would go into a "Digital TV Station"? I envision a mid-high end digital
video camera, a powerhouse computer, some stage lights, and a streaming
server somewhere on site... does this make sense?=20

=20

My vision is that there wouldn't even be any physical TVs in the
classrooms... just projectors in the classrooms.. and maybe a Plasma
display or 2 in common areas showing announcements, pictures,
what-not...

=20

=20

=20

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Technology Director

Concordia Lutheran High School

sommermeyerj@concordiacrusaders.org

281.351.2547

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Re: TV in a new school building

Our local new high school just put in a kiosk system. I don't know
anything about it but you might contact Exeter Area High School at
http://ehs.sau16.org/=20

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Michelle Ohnstad
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Subject: Re: TV in a new school building

Can you keep this public or send me your responses?

Thanks.

Michelle

On Dec 17, 2007 12:53 PM, Joshua Sommermeyer <
sommermeyerj@concordiacrusaders.org> wrote:

> I am on the planning committee for a new school... One of the members
of=20
> the committee is sold on having a TV station for announcements and=20
> other activities... do schools still put dedicated TV station
equipment=20
> in the building to broadcast in-house? Does it make more sense to=20
> have a Digital TV station with streamed programming? What kind of=20
> hardware would go into a "Digital TV Station"? I envision a mid-high=20
> end digital video camera, a powerhouse computer, some stage lights,=20
> and a streaming server somewhere on site... does this make sense?
>
>
>
> My vision is that there wouldn't even be any physical TVs in the=20
> classrooms... just projectors in the classrooms.. and maybe a Plasma=20
> display or 2 in common areas showing announcements, pictures,=20
> what-not...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------
>
> Joshua D. Sommermeyer
>
> Technology Director
>
> Concordia Lutheran High School
>
> sommermeyerj@concordiacrusaders.org
>
> 281.351.2547
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Pacific Ridge School
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Anyone using Student Response systems in the Classroom

We currently have a Classroom performance system by eInstruction which =
we've
had for several years. I am looking to update our system. Our Science
teachers have expressed interest in using a response system in their
classrooms to obtain instant feedback. There seems to be a lot of =
e-clicker
systems out there and I am not sure the benefits/drawbacks of each =
system.
Does anyone have any recommendations on a student response system. =
Thanks
for any information that you can share.

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Sandy Rosenbaum

Educational Technology Coordinator

Norwood School

Bethesda, MD

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Re: Alphasmarts anyone?

Susan:

We would be very interested in the Alphasmarts. Our Lower School =
faculty is beginning to do some research into the benefits of typed work =
versus written assignments for or learning different children. If the =
Alphasmarts are still available, we would gladly pay all packing and =
shipping costs.

ED

Ed Walters
Head of School
The Independent School
8317 East Douglas
Wichita, KS 67207

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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Ferris
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:52 PM
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Subject: Alphasmarts anyone?

Hi there---
We may be in a position to donate several (like 35 or so) working =
Alphasmarts.
Do you know anyone who would be/is interested
and
able to pick them up in Northern NJ---about 20 minutes west of =
Newark---???
Please contact me and let me know.

Thanks.

Susan Ferris Rights
The Pingry School
973-379-4550

Susan Ferris Rights
908-568-1884
sfmr@comcast.net

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Re: TV in a new school building

Can you keep this public or send me your responses?

Thanks.

Michelle

On Dec 17, 2007 12:53 PM, Joshua Sommermeyer <
sommermeyerj@concordiacrusaders.org> wrote:

> I am on the planning committee for a new school=85 One of the members of =
the
> committee is sold on having a TV station for announcements and other
> activities=85 do schools still put dedicated TV station equipment in the
> building to broadcast in-house? Does it make more sense to have a Digita=
l
> TV station with streamed programming? What kind of hardware would go int=
o a
> "Digital TV Station"? I envision a mid-high end digital video camera, a
> powerhouse computer, some stage lights, and a streaming server somewhere =
on
> site=85 does this make sense?
>
>
>
> My vision is that there wouldn't even be any physical TVs in the
> classrooms=85 just projectors in the classrooms.. and maybe a Plasma disp=
lay
> or 2 in common areas showing announcements, pictures, what-not=85
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------
>
> Joshua D. Sommermeyer
>
> Technology Director
>
> Concordia Lutheran High School
>
> sommermeyerj@concordiacrusaders.org
>
> 281.351.2547
>
>
>
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
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La Jolla Country Day School
La Jolla, CA
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Library Media Specialist
Pacific Ridge School
Carlsbad, CA
Web:

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Wiki: http://www.independentschoollibraries.wikispaces.com
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Alphasmarts anyone?

Hi there---
We may be in a position to donate several (like 35 or so) working =
Alphasmarts.
Do you know anyone who would be/is interested
and
able to pick them up in Northern NJ---about 20 minutes west of =
Newark---???
Please contact me and let me know.

Thanks.

Susan Ferris Rights
The Pingry School
973-379-4550

Susan Ferris Rights
908-568-1884
sfmr@comcast.net

There is enough light for those whose wish is to see,=20
and enough darkness for those who are of a contrary disposition.
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People Counters, anyone?

Hello,

=20

I'm looking into "People Counters" (sounds like something you would have
found at Disneyland in 1966, doesn't it?) to track traffic, as we don't
use a gate counter that sometimes comes with a security system. =20

=20

Does anyone have any experience with 'gateless' people counters? I'm
looking particularly at something from SenSource (sensourceinc.com) but
would like to have information on actual use in a working setting from
someone in the field, as it were. =20

=20

Let me know, and thanks!

Shannon

=20

Shannon Acedo

Head Librarian

Harvard-Westlake Upper School

3700 Coldwater Canyon Avenue

North Hollywood, CA 91304-0037

(818)487-6587

sacedo@hw.com

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TV in a new school building

I am on the planning committee for a new school=85 One of the members of =
the committee is sold on having a TV station for announcements and other =
activities=85 do schools still put dedicated TV station equipment in the =
building to broadcast in-house? Does it make more sense to have a =
Digital TV station with streamed programming? What kind of hardware =
would go into a =93Digital TV Station=94? I envision a mid-high end =
digital video camera, a powerhouse computer, some stage lights, and a =
streaming server somewhere on site=85 does this make sense?=20

=20

My vision is that there wouldn=92t even be any physical TVs in the =
classrooms=85 just projectors in the classrooms.. and maybe a Plasma =
display or 2 in common areas showing announcements, pictures, =
what-not=85

=20

=20

=20

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Joshua D. Sommermeyer

Technology Director

Concordia Lutheran High School

sommermeyerj@concordiacrusaders.org

281.351.2547

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Auction Software

We currently use AuctionStar to run our annual school auction. The
program works well in some areas, but it also has some major drawbacks.
Does anyone have any recommendations on other auction software packages?
What are some benefits/drawbacks that you experience with your program?

=20

Thanks,

Nick Sticklen
Director of Technology
The Regis School of the Sacred Heart
7330 Westview Drive
Houston, TX 77055
email: nsticklen@theregisschool.org
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Re: Ebooks

Thanks, Demetri.

Here are two more that I'm researching that you may want to add to the =
page.
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http://www.stenhouse.com/html/ebooks.htm

http://udtprogram.com/udtp/k12/index.php

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From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Demetri =
Orlando
Sent: Mon 12/17/2007 9:04 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Ebooks

Hi Shabbi,
Thanks for your messages about tablets and ebooks. I just added a new
wiki page that includes the names and ISBN numbers of a few full-text
digital versions of texts we use here at BGA, and info I learned from a
previous search. We are pursuing this for all or our upper school text
books. I would appreciate others adding to this list of text books.
http://schoolcomputing.wikia.com/wiki/Electronic_Books_and_Texts In case
that URL gets broken, here is a shorter one: http://tinyurl.com/yst4uh I
do hope others will add info or email a response to this query. I'd
appreciate hearing what you find.
Thanks!
Demetri
BGA
demetrio@battlegroundacademy.org
Tablet ning group: http://isenet.ning.com/group/tabletpcusers

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From: Luthra, Shabbi <ITDirector@asbindia.org>
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 3:57 am
Subject: Ebooks
Is anyone using ebooks? We are exploring their use. Does anyone have any
guidance on publishers and licensing with using these on student owned
tablets?

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Re: Key cards in dorms (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED=20
Caveats: NONE

I inherited a prox-card system at Lowell and I loved everything about it
except the software to administer the cards. The software we used was
Access Gold (AG) and I would not recommend it. What ever software you
select I would recommend that it:

--Can be administered by multiple people. Preferably a web based client
where you can grant access as needed with authentication based on AD or
other login credentials. AG could only be administered directly from
the server. You can use VNC and other tools to mitigate this but it
should be built in to the software.
--Allow for easy/fast search and retrieval of any given card's past
access or cards used at a given door/access point. Ever months worth of
data added 5-10 minutes to searching the records and the reports were
difficult to read unless you really understood the system.
--Allows you to group access points. Example: If you have 4 doors that
provide access to the dorm, you should be able to group them all into a
single group called "Main Entry". And grant access to that. AG made
you define user groups and they add devices individually. This meant it
took a lot more time to build out the user groups (especially in a
building with 21 external doors).

Most systems allow for this functionality but as I looked for
replacements (2 years ago), I was surprised how many lacked one of the
above. We also looked at swipe cards to extend the system to other
buildings, but despite the lower initial cost, the general consensus
among vendors was to stick with the prox system since the ware-and-tear
(read: repair frequency) was significantly lower on prox systems since
they required no physical contact.

Also, in our environment people generally preferred prox on key fobs
instead of the cards. They were a bit more expensive, but they tended
to be far more durable and did not get lost as frequently.

_J

___________________________________

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Web Services Branch - Walter Reed Army Medical Center Ingenium (ISO
9001:2000 certified)
Office: 202-782-1047
Cell: 202-262-0516
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jason.p.johnson2@us.army.mil=20
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[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Allyn Bushlow
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:57 AM
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Subject: Key cards in dorms

Anyone out there happy with a keycard entry system in their dorms?=20
Looking for a card swipe or proximity key card entry system, similar to
what's used in hotels. Success stories or systems to stay away from are
appreciated.

Regards,

Allyn Bushlow
Director of Technology
Stevenson School
3152 Forest Lake Road
Pebble Beach, CA 93953
831-625-8395
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