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Monday, August 9, 2010

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

You are absolutely right on this one Renee. As a librarian I try to bring the staff and faculty into the library for professional development by content area. With hands-on, content related instruction and practice in database usage, streaming, and other online resources that are available...then the teachers are not so uncomfortable around these resources and are more willing to require their students to use them.

Some responses to this discussion write about one time library instruction. I again have to differ...a school librarian's job is to teach information literacy. Everyone is overworked, and we are all taking on more roles as needs be. Perhaps there are faculty who do not think of school librarians teachers. Perhaps that thinking needs to change. The role of a school librarian has changed over the years, and those of us who have kept up are more than capable of teaching information literacy collaboratively with a teacher, maintaining contact, and being available for more than one hour of instruction.

We can talk forever - but actions speak....you get the picture

Suzanne Feldberg
Upper School Librarian
Albuquerque Academy

On Aug 9, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Renee Ramig wrote:

> I think the missing step here is that the TEACHERS have to LEARN how to
> find and evaluate the information. It is hard to reinforce what you
> don't know how to do or to do well. I think it is the librarians' job
> to not only teach the students but also the teachers. If the teachers
> were willing to be with the students in the library when the librarians
> are teaching about what resources are available and how to use them,
> they would be learning along with them. Then, there could be
> enforcement in the classrooms.
>
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A forum for independent school educators
> [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Fred Austin
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:09 AM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not
> 'digital natives'"
>
> Hi Guys
>
> I may have missed this but isn't this exactly what our mission is when
> we have a technology based educational system in our schools?
>
> I agree, some have commented that we in fact need to teach them how to
> validate data and determine relevancy to their task at hand. That is
> very true and our librarians need to be the driving force behind that.
> But, all of our teachers need to reinforce it in their everyday
> classroom. It is our very fundamental existence to teach the children
> how to use this ubiquitous tool in addition to the other foundations of
> learning.
>
> I am also wondering of the demographics of the students surveyed? It is
> evidence of a digital divide among our societies? If you look at the
> population within your own schools, tech uptake is individualized just
> like any other interest a student has.
>
>
> Fred Austin
> Technology Director
> The Oakwood School
> A PreK-12 Independent Day School
> Greenville, NC
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Renee Ramig wrote:
>
>> I have to disagree somewhat with this article. How many teachers do
> you know can find a watch a video within a few seconds, have three chat
> windows open, and be responding to posts on Facebook? The teens I know
> can find any music video or song faster than I can on the Internet.
>>
>> We don't need to teach them how to use the technology, we need to
> teach them how to find and evaluate information. Teens rarely spend
> time evaluating what they read, unless they are motivated to do so. If
> you are into racing cars, then you are evaluating the websites you find
> about the cars. I will hear them say - "this person doesn't know
> anything about X cars" and they search for sites that are reliable and
> valid.
>>
>> I do agree that the librarians are the experts (or should be the
> experts), and they are the ones that should be teaching the information
> literacy skills.
>>
>> Renee Ramig
>> Seven Hills School
>>
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Re: Win7 Tech Question

No, the devices won't leave, and if they do, the students will know they =
will not connect elsewhere. We actually are using them on a local =
wireless connection and we don't want them on the school connection. =20

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators =
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Ryan Fox
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:21 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Win7 Tech Question

Will the workstations in question leave the campus network (i.e. go home =
with the student) or are these school-bound devices? If they will NOT =
leave campus, one should be able to limit the user's ability to create a =
new network. If the workstation will leave campus, limiting the =
available SSIDs may cause undesired consequences off-campus.

Please explain the use case in a bit more detail.

Thanks,
Ryan R. Fox
Product Manager - Kairos
TADS Technology Group

ryan@tads.com
www.tads.net
Twitter: ryanRfox

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators =
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Brass, Tami
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:07 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Win7 Tech Question

If you find out, I'd love to know :-)

We have a "neighbor" that has their wireless wide open; it's accessible =
from some rooms and kids who attach to it need to reboot to see our =
network. (Of course, no children would do this intentionally to bypass =
our network, but if they did, their computers seem to want to reattach =
to the same AP later.)

Tami Brass
Middle School Technology Coordinator
St. Paul Academy and Summit School
1712 Randolph Ave.
St Paul, MN 55105
http://www.spa.edu
(651)=A0696-1444

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators =
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Richter, Lavina A.
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:44 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Win7 Tech Question

Anyone know how to set policy on a Win7 laptop so that it can only reach
a certain wireless SSID (and can't connect to a signal it can find)?
Thanks, Vi

=20

Vi Richter

Academic Technology Coordinator

Instructor in Junior Studies

Phillips Exeter Academy

http://www.exeter.edu/ITS

=20

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Re: Win7 Tech Question

You can do this with Group Policy.

http://www.grouppolicy.biz/2010/03/how-to-use-group-policy-to-blackwhite-li=
st-wireless-networks-in-vista-windows-7/

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.=
EDU] On Behalf Of Richter, Lavina A.
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:44 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Win7 Tech Question

Anyone know how to set policy on a Win7 laptop so that it can only reach
a certain wireless SSID (and can't connect to a signal it can find)?
Thanks, Vi

=20

Vi Richter

Academic Technology Coordinator

Instructor in Junior Studies

Phillips Exeter Academy

http://www.exeter.edu/ITS

=20

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Re: Win7 Tech Question

Will the workstations in question leave the campus network (i.e. go home wi=
th the student) or are these school-bound devices? If they will NOT leave =
campus, one should be able to limit the user's ability to create a new netw=
ork. If the workstation will leave campus, limiting the available SSIDs ma=
y cause undesired consequences off-campus.

Please explain the use case in a bit more detail.

Thanks,
Ryan R. Fox
Product Manager - Kairos
TADS Technology Group

ryan@tads.com
www.tads.net
Twitter: ryanRfox

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.=
EDU] On Behalf Of Brass, Tami
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:07 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Win7 Tech Question

If you find out, I'd love to know :-)

We have a "neighbor" that has their wireless wide open; it's accessible fro=
m some rooms and kids who attach to it need to reboot to see our network. =
(Of course, no children would do this intentionally to bypass our network, =
but if they did, their computers seem to want to reattach to the same AP la=
ter.)

Tami Brass
Middle School Technology Coordinator
St. Paul Academy and Summit School
1712 Randolph Ave.
St Paul, MN 55105
http://www.spa.edu
(651)=A0696-1444

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.=
EDU] On Behalf Of Richter, Lavina A.
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:44 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Win7 Tech Question

Anyone know how to set policy on a Win7 laptop so that it can only reach
a certain wireless SSID (and can't connect to a signal it can find)?
Thanks, Vi

=20

Vi Richter

Academic Technology Coordinator

Instructor in Junior Studies

Phillips Exeter Academy

http://www.exeter.edu/ITS

=20

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

My response to this article and comments inspired a blog post:
"Devotion to the Time Being" -
http://empowered-teacher.com/blog/10-08-09/devotion-time-being

-Bram
(Colleagues: I begin a position as Director of Academic Technology
for http://conval.edu, a school district in Peterborough, New Hampshire,
next Monday. Good bye, private sector!)

Re: Win7 Tech Question

If you find out, I'd love to know :-)

Tami Brass
Middle School Technology Coordinator
St. Paul Academy and Summit School
1712 Randolph Ave.
St Paul, MN 55105
http://www.spa.edu
(651)=A0696-1444

Anyone know how to set policy on a Win7 laptop so that it can only reach
a certain wireless SSID (and can't connect to a signal it can find)?
Thanks, Vi

=20

Vi Richter

Academic Technology Coordinator

Instructor in Junior Studies

Phillips Exeter Academy

http://www.exeter.edu/ITS

=20

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

I think the missing step here is that the TEACHERS have to LEARN how to
find and evaluate the information. It is hard to reinforce what you
don't know how to do or to do well. I think it is the librarians' job
to not only teach the students but also the teachers. If the teachers
were willing to be with the students in the library when the librarians
are teaching about what resources are available and how to use them,
they would be learning along with them. Then, there could be
enforcement in the classrooms.

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Fred Austin
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:09 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not
'digital natives'"

Hi Guys

I may have missed this but isn't this exactly what our mission is when
we have a technology based educational system in our schools?=20

I agree, some have commented that we in fact need to teach them how to
validate data and determine relevancy to their task at hand. That is
very true and our librarians need to be the driving force behind that.
But, all of our teachers need to reinforce it in their everyday
classroom. It is our very fundamental existence to teach the children
how to use this ubiquitous tool in addition to the other foundations of
learning.

I am also wondering of the demographics of the students surveyed? It is
evidence of a digital divide among our societies? If you look at the
population within your own schools, tech uptake is individualized just
like any other interest a student has.

Fred Austin
Technology Director
The Oakwood School
A PreK-12 Independent Day School=20
Greenville, NC

On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Renee Ramig wrote:

> I have to disagree somewhat with this article. How many teachers do
you know can find a watch a video within a few seconds, have three chat
windows open, and be responding to posts on Facebook? The teens I know
can find any music video or song faster than I can on the Internet. =20
>=20
> We don't need to teach them how to use the technology, we need to
teach them how to find and evaluate information. Teens rarely spend
time evaluating what they read, unless they are motivated to do so. If
you are into racing cars, then you are evaluating the websites you find
about the cars. I will hear them say - "this person doesn't know
anything about X cars" and they search for sites that are reliable and
valid.
>=20
> I do agree that the librarians are the experts (or should be the
experts), and they are the ones that should be teaching the information
literacy skills.
>=20
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>=20
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Win7 Tech Question

Anyone know how to set policy on a Win7 laptop so that it can only reach
a certain wireless SSID (and can't connect to a signal it can find)?
Thanks, Vi

=20

Vi Richter

Academic Technology Coordinator

Instructor in Junior Studies

Phillips Exeter Academy

http://www.exeter.edu/ITS

=20

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Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

Differing is all well and good, but the key here is between should and
would. Many librarians in the K-12 world, at least in my experience with
them, are much too busy running their library to take the time to become
facile with with database searching and are not prepared to teach this
skill. Furthermore, how can one or two librarians effectively impart
these skills to hundreds or thousands of students in addition to their
other responsibilities? Many schools, due to financial circumstances have
either cut way back on library support and staffing or cut it out
entirely, so in some schools there may be no librarian to teach these
skills. Then there is the issue of curriculum against one classroom visit
a year or semester of about say one hour and lots of other topics that can
be discussed by a librarian, such as showing great books from the school
library. Database searching is a skill that needs to be taught if this is
a skill to be effectively learned over a series of classes with hands on
practice for students. If not taught as a skill with some time spent on
teaching this skill, not much will be learned. Can one imagine a
mathematics specialist teaching a couple of classes a year to teach
students in two hours the basics of algebra? If this is a bad way to
teach mathematics skills, what makes this an appropriate method for
teaching research skills? If teaching of research skills is not made part
of the curriculum and integrated into the courses taught, these skills so
important to much other learning and to self directed learning will be
brushed over or ignored in many schools just as they are today. Indeed,
those who visit classes to teach for a session or two and do not give
grades or have the ability to test or provide graded assignments have less
power to command interest and attention of the class listeners. Indeed
those assigning research projects should know much more about the tools
used to conduct this research than they do. One could ask why so many
teachers in so many schools are unaware of state provided databases for
student research. Are not the librarians at these schools who should be
teaching about database skills according to the comments I read, telling
teachers about these tools and encouraging them to use them and
encouraging them to tell their students to use them? It seems to me that
if K-12 schools want student success in post-secondary education for their
graduates, much more needs to be done to enrich student research skills
including training in the use of databases in order to facilitate these
graduates to do college level research. The teaching of these skills
needs to be a graded part of the curriculum so that there is confidence
that it is being taught and so that assessment can be employed to
determine that these skills are learned.

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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, SUZANNE J FELDBERG wrote:

> In response to David's comments on navigating databases...I beg to
> differ. Learning to navigate and make proper use of online databases and
> digital information is where school librarians should be stepping in. If
> librarians in your school aren't teaching these skills I would find out
> why. A school librarian is trained to teach how to disseminate
> information be it online or on paper. They also should be teaching (in
> this context) about plagiarism, the difference between a website and a
> database, and how to conduct a successful search for information.

> I realize that it is tough for teachers to give up time to librarians to
> work with students on these goals, but as we all know, collaboration is
> key to our student's success.

> Suzanne Feldberg
> Upper School Librarian
> Albuquerque Academy

<snip>

wireless keyboards and mice?

We recently purchased some all-in-one PC's for a middle school lab with
limited space. They came with wireless mice and keyboards. I'm guessing I
don't need to outline the various concerns we have for mischief and theft
(not to mention battery costs). But I have to say I get giddy anytime
there's a chance of getting rid of a few more wires.

We are considering replacing the mice and keyboards with wired.

Looking to hear from other folks about good (or bad) experiences in
similar situations.

Laura Loftus
Educational Technology Specialist
Georgetown Day School
4530 MacArthur Boulevard, NW
Washington DC 20007
http://www.gds.org

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

Hi Guys

I may have missed this but isn't this exactly what our mission is when =
we have a technology based educational system in our schools?=20

I agree, some have commented that we in fact need to teach them how to =
validate data and determine relevancy to their task at hand. That is =
very true and our librarians need to be the driving force behind that. =
But, all of our teachers need to reinforce it in their everyday =
classroom. It is our very fundamental existence to teach the children =
how to use this ubiquitous tool in addition to the other foundations of =
learning.

I am also wondering of the demographics of the students surveyed? It is =
evidence of a digital divide among our societies? If you look at the =
population within your own schools, tech uptake is individualized just =
like any other interest a student has.

Fred Austin
Technology Director
The Oakwood School
A PreK-12 Independent Day School=20
Greenville, NC

On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Renee Ramig wrote:

> I have to disagree somewhat with this article. How many teachers do =
you know can find a watch a video within a few seconds, have three chat =
windows open, and be responding to posts on Facebook? The teens I know =
can find any music video or song faster than I can on the Internet. =20
>=20
> We don't need to teach them how to use the technology, we need to =
teach them how to find and evaluate information. Teens rarely spend =
time evaluating what they read, unless they are motivated to do so. If =
you are into racing cars, then you are evaluating the websites you find =
about the cars. I will hear them say - "this person doesn't know =
anything about X cars" and they search for sites that are reliable and =
valid.
>=20
> I do agree that the librarians are the experts (or should be the =
experts), and they are the ones that should be teaching the information =
literacy skills.
>=20
> Renee Ramig
> Seven Hills School
>=20
> [ For info on ISED-L see =
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Re: Intro to Electronics for Lower School

Hi Susan
I used these kits successfully in grades 1-3... and it could easily go
higher. You will be best served by getting several kits- or larger kits tha=
n
30 pieces.
Maureen

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Susan Ferris <susanferris123@gmail.com>wrot=
e:

> Hi to all---
>
> I spent some time this summer being trained to be a docent at the
> Chatham Marconi Maritime Center in Cape Cod which is all about Guglielmo =
*
> Marconi*,
> best known for his development of a radio telegraph system, which has
> started me
> thinking about teaching an Intro to Electronics enrichment class to grade=
s
> 3-5.
>
> In checking out some ideas I have come across a snap circuits kit by
> Elenco Electronics that comes with 30 parts which can be constructed and
> deconstructed to make a variety of projects.
>
> Has anyone used this kit?
> How well did the projects work?
>
> It looks like a great way to get kids interested in electronics and provi=
de
> a basic understanding
> of simple circuits---
>
> Thanks.
> Susan Ferris Rights
> sfrights@pingry.org
>
>
>
> --
> Susan Ferris Rights
> susanferris123@gmail.com
> 908-568-1884
>
> "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.=94
> Theodore Roosevelt
>
> =93A real friend is one who walks in when the rest of the world walks out=
.=94
> Walter Winchell
>
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Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

I have to disagree somewhat with this article. How many teachers do you =
know can find a watch a video within a few seconds, have three chat =
windows open, and be responding to posts on Facebook? The teens I know =
can find any music video or song faster than I can on the Internet. =20

We don't need to teach them how to use the technology, we need to teach =
them how to find and evaluate information. Teens rarely spend time =
evaluating what they read, unless they are motivated to do so. If you =
are into racing cars, then you are evaluating the websites you find =
about the cars. I will hear them say - "this person doesn't know =
anything about X cars" and they search for sites that are reliable and =
valid.

I do agree that the librarians are the experts (or should be the =
experts), and they are the ones that should be teaching the information =
literacy skills.

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

I do agree that the librarians are the experts (or should be the =
experts), and they are the ones that should be teaching the information =
literacy skills.

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School

policies re:smart pens,i.e. pulse

I am wondering if any schools have had students using smart pens in their =
classes and if you have any guidelines , policies, or permissions regarding=
their usage, particularly for middle school students that you might be wil=
ling to share. Has the topic come up at all?

Thanks
Nancy Jones
Sacred Heart Schools
Chicago,Illinois

Re: Der Spiegal Article on 'Digital Natives'

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Mergy <jmergy@lwhs.org> wrote:

> Great topic-
>
> ...Email? Why setup and email server and see the tech behind it or how it
> works? Just get a free Gmail account or Yahoo! account? The school the
> student is in probably did that too. Webserver? Why setup your own
> webserver
> when we can just host it at Google Sites or something? Sure, the
> functionality is limited but if you don't know that, a website = what
> Google
> Sites or another cloud service provides for you. It isn't exactly what I
> want, but it is free and took me a few minutes to setup and I can abandon
> it
> if I grow tired of it.
>

But how many of us ever really set up our own email server? If we were at a
university back in the beginning days of the Internet, we used Pine on the
mail server that our institution set up for us. We set up squat. At home we
used Eudora and dial-up to work with those messages offline. No server set
up there, just setting up the software on our end to interact with it.

Later on, when we left those institutions, but still had a taste of the
Internet in our mouths, we signed up with ISPs who had their own mail and
web servers. Once again WE didn't have to do any of the back end work. Sure,
we could write our own HTML code and FTP it up to our space on their web
server, but we didn't have to set it up ourselves. And then when software
like Claris Homepage, Adobe Go Live, and Dreamweaver came out, the need for
most people to know HTML went out the window.

What I'm trying to say is that the average user has NEVER had to know how
everything worked behind the curtain. I worked for Computer Services at a
large university, and my job was to help people with their projects and
learn how to do email, it was the job of another department to make sure
that things were running in the background so that I could do my job.

Ah...one of the reasons why I haven't used Google Sites for myself is that
I'm a big control freak, and want my webpage to look "just so." As a result,
I own my own domain, have it hosted by a hosting company, and use KompoZer
(an open source web design tool) to do my pages. My wife's needs aren't as
fussy as mine, and she can get what she needs by using Blogger. Does she
have to know HTML (or know someone who does) to get what she wants? Not
anymore. Maybe she shouldn't have to.

And maybe we shouldn't force her, and others like her, to just because we're
a bunch of geeks who love that stuff.

Frankly, I resisted using Gmail for years because it seemed like a throwback
to the days of having to be online in order to read your email using Pine.
At least with Eudora, you could read it offline. But then I found myself
using different computers in different places, and found myself in places
where you were blocked from sending mail through their SMTP port...and Gmail
finally added some features that I wanted from Eudora.

Then I made the switch, and haven't looked back. It really is an improvement
for me.

keg

========================================
Keith E Gatling
Email: keith@gatling.us
Blog: http://wordfromg.blogspot.com
Website: http://www.gatling.us/keith
The fact that I'm open-minded doesn't mean that I have to agree with you.
========================================

Re: Der Spiegal Article on 'Digital Natives'

Great topic-

The Der Spiegel article mirrors what I have seen as well with students. If
anything, I have had great discussions with students that want to downplay
knowledge of facts and past events and not make efforts to understand facts
because they feel they can always get to them on the internet if/when
needed. So, with many, there is a sense that the internet is always there to
pick-off the basics for them.

Another aspect that has been interesting for me is to see some students that
rebel against tech. Email is 'the man' and the equivalent of formal
communication that previous generations would have seen as written letters.

I have also had many discussions with people recently about how we seem to
be at another stage in technology understanding for the masses. In the early
90's, the internet was a new thing to most, complex and magical. Then, late
90's and 00's dot.com came and went trying to capitalize on the magic and
there seemed to be a greater sense of understanding of what was going on
behind the scenes of webservers, websites, etc. because that level had not
been abstracted yet. Now, we have that level of abstraction with cloud
computing, Facebook, Wordpress and other common tech people interact with
and generate content with but not really know what is going on behind the
scenes. I think the 'net generation' is really now just riding this for the
most part. They do FB and other tech but are hitting the tech at a level
where they can get their needs defined for them (social sites, share pics,
etc.) and then they can play with it and move on. There is no need or sense
to get deeper understanding of the ramifications or the fact, for example,
that the website loads so slow and we need broadband because the site is
inundated with analytics to serve ads to pay the bills so they can dish the
services for free. Fads come and go and websites are fads in many respects
to them like fashion and music, so deep investment in those is minimal in
general.

Email? Why setup and email server and see the tech behind it or how it
works? Just get a free Gmail account or Yahoo! account? The school the
student is in probably did that too. Webserver? Why setup your own webserver
when we can just host it at Google Sites or something? Sure, the
functionality is limited but if you don't know that, a website = what Google
Sites or another cloud service provides for you. It isn't exactly what I
want, but it is free and took me a few minutes to setup and I can abandon it
if I grow tired of it.

When we look at tech as free/no charge it also sends a message to them, I
feel, as lack of investment because they are probably just disposable. Ning
and Google discussions on this list and others come to mind. Technology and
the internet as a commodity was bound to happen and it has for the most part
and treating it as such breeds this sense of indifference. Mix that with
assumed anonymity and identity issues they probably have when online and the
overall minimal sense of investment/importance is understood. Anyway, just
my experience but the Der Spiegal article hits it on many levels from what I
have seen and glad it was mentioned on the list. I read it Sunday AM and it
stirred some thoughts for sure over coffee.

Jonathan
................................
Jonathan Mergy <jmergy@lwhs.org>
Director Of Technology
Lick-Wilmerding High School
755 Ocean Ave, SF CA 94112
P:415.585.1725 x365
http://www.lwhs.org

> From: Keith E Gatling <keith@gatling.us>
> Reply-To: ISED-L <ISED-L@listserv.syr.edu>
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 09:46:51 -0400
> To: ISED-L <ISED-L@listserv.syr.edu>
> Subject: Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital
> natives'"
>
> I agree with you 100% here. Historically the librarians were always the ones
> who taught us how to do research, even when we thought we had a pretty good
> handle on how to use the old World Book already. There are adults (and
> teachers) who don't have good research skills, so why should we assume that
> students have them automatically simply because they've grown up with the
> Internet?
>
> Heck, I remember that when my father taught me about the microfilm readers
> at the public library, it opened up a whole new world for me!
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, SUZANNE J FELDBERG <sulata@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In response to David's comments on navigating databases...I beg to differ.
>> Learning to navigate and make proper use of online databases and digital
>> information is where school librarians should be stepping in. If librarians
>> in your school aren't teaching these skills I would find out why. A school
>> librarian is trained to teach how to disseminate information be it online or
>> on paper. They also should be teaching (in this context) about plagiarism,
>> the difference between a website and a database, and how to conduct a
>> successful search for information.
>>
>> I realize that it is tough for teachers to give up time to librarians to
>> work with students on these goals, but as we all know, collaboration is key
>> to our student's success.
>>
>> Suzanne Feldberg
>> Upper School Librarian
>> Albuquerque Academy
>
> [ For info on ISED-L see https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=128874 ]
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Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

I agree with you 100% here. Historically the librarians were always the ones
who taught us how to do research, even when we thought we had a pretty good
handle on how to use the old World Book already. There are adults (and
teachers) who don't have good research skills, so why should we assume that
students have them automatically simply because they've grown up with the
Internet?

Heck, I remember that when my father taught me about the microfilm readers
at the public library, it opened up a whole new world for me!

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, SUZANNE J FELDBERG <sulata@mac.com> wrote:

> In response to David's comments on navigating databases...I beg to differ.
> Learning to navigate and make proper use of online databases and digital
> information is where school librarians should be stepping in. If librarians
> in your school aren't teaching these skills I would find out why. A school
> librarian is trained to teach how to disseminate information be it online or
> on paper. They also should be teaching (in this context) about plagiarism,
> the difference between a website and a database, and how to conduct a
> successful search for information.
>
> I realize that it is tough for teachers to give up time to librarians to
> work with students on these goals, but as we all know, collaboration is key
> to our student's success.
>
> Suzanne Feldberg
> Upper School Librarian
> Albuquerque Academy

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

In response to David's comments on navigating databases...I beg to differ. Learning to navigate and make proper use of online databases and digital information is where school librarians should be stepping in. If librarians in your school aren't teaching these skills I would find out why. A school librarian is trained to teach how to disseminate information be it online or on paper. They also should be teaching (in this context) about plagiarism, the difference between a website and a database, and how to conduct a successful search for information.

I realize that it is tough for teachers to give up time to librarians to work with students on these goals, but as we all know, collaboration is key to our student's success.

Suzanne Feldberg
Upper School Librarian
Albuquerque Academy

On Aug 8, 2010, at 11:43 PM, David P. Dillard wrote:

> Do adolescents know history, algebra, chemistry and so forth on their own. Not likely. Somebody has to teach these skills. The techniques of searching internet search engines and databases, in my experience, are not part of the curriculum in K-12 and while students are often required to find quality articles for their projects and research, little or no attention is paid to teaching them how to find these articles. Most K-12 teachers that I have met over the years do not know that many if not most states in the United States provide access to some databases from EBSCO, First Search and some other databanks and that in some of these databases are selected content of full text magazines, trade journals and academic journals. When students do not know about, let alone know how to use such tools, the quality of their research work goes down and they are ill prepared for doing college level work.
>
> Articles & Databases
> The New York Public Library
> http://www.nypl.org/collections/articles-databases
>
> Content Sample
>
> Page 1 of 3 Next
>
> Free Web resource - available anywhereA2A - Access to ArchivesContains catalogues describing archives held throughout England and dating from the 900s to the present day.
>
> Accessible only at select Library locations
> ABES: Annotated Bibliography of English Studies
> Covers secondary literature in English Studies in four main subject areas: Language and Linguistics, Cultural Studies, Literary Studies, and Film Studies.
>
> Free Web resource - available anywhereNew York Online Virtual Electronic LibraryAcademic One FileThis database has extensive coverage of the physical sciences, technology, medicine, social sciences, the arts, theology, literature and more. It also contains some full text titles that are cited in databases such as AGRICOLA, CINAHL, EconLit, ERIC, MEDLINE, MLA International Bibliography, PsycINFO and others.
>
> Accessible outside the Library with your NYPL card
> Academic Search PremierA multi-disciplinary database of more than 4,600 magazines and journals, including full text for nearly 3,900 peer-reviewed titles. In addition to the full-text, this database offers indexing and abstracts for 8,470 journals.
>
> Accessible only at select Library locations
> AccessUN Index, articles and full-text database of United Nations documents covering 1998-present.
>
> Accessible only at select Library locations
> ACLS Humanities E-Book Project
> Provides online access to a fully searchable collection of high-quality books in the Humanities, recommended and reviewed by scholars.
>
> Free Web resource - available anywhere
> AcqWeb's Directory of Publishers and VendorsProvides links to websites of publishers throughout the world, searchable by alphabetical, geographical, and topical lists.
>
> And in New York City that is just a small part of the letter A in the above content sample.
>
>
> MORE:
>
> DATABASE OR DATABASES
> http://tinyurl.com/mx7p97
>
> INTERNET RESEARCH
> http://tinyurl.com/n8mokd
>
> INTERNET SEARCH
> http://tinyurl.com/lbacf9
>
>
> Sincerely,
> David Dillard
> Temple University
> (215) 204 - 4584
> jwne@temple.edu
> <http://daviddillard.businesscard2.com>
> Net-Gold
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold>
> Index: <http://tinyurl.com/myxb4w>
> <http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/net-gold?hl=en>
> General Internet & Print Resources
> <http://guides.temple.edu/general-internet>
> COUNTRIES
> <http://guides.temple.edu/general-country-info>
> EMPLOYMENT
> <http://guides.temple.edu/EMPLOYMENT>
> TOURISM
> <http://guides.temple.edu/tourism>
> DISABILITIES
> http://guides.temple.edu/DISABILITIES
> INDOOR GARDENING
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IndoorGardeningUrban/>
> Educator-Gold
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educator-Gold/>
> K12ADMINLIFE
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K12AdminLIFE/>
> RUSSELL CONWELL CENTER SUBJECT GUIDE
> http://guides.temple.edu/Russell-Conwell-Center
> THE COLLEGE LEARNING CENTER
> <http://tinyurl.com/yae7w79>
> Nina Dillard's Photographs on Net-Gold
> http://tinyurl.com/36qd2o
> and also http://gallery.me.com/neemers1
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/neemers/
> Net-Gold Membership Required to View Photos on Net-Gold
> Twitter: davidpdillard
>
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Sunday, August 8, 2010

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

Do adolescents know history, algebra, chemistry and so forth on their own.
Not likely. Somebody has to teach these skills. The techniques of
searching internet search engines and databases, in my experience, are not
part of the curriculum in K-12 and while students are often required to
find quality articles for their projects and research, little or no
attention is paid to teaching them how to find these articles. Most K-12
teachers that I have met over the years do not know that many if not most
states in the United States provide access to some databases from EBSCO,
First Search and some other databanks and that in some of these databases
are selected content of full text magazines, trade journals and academic
journals. When students do not know about, let alone know how to use
such tools, the quality of their research work goes down and they are ill
prepared for doing college level work.

Articles & Databases
The New York Public Library
http://www.nypl.org/collections/articles-databases

Content Sample

Page 1 of 3 Next

Free Web resource - available anywhereA2A - Access to ArchivesContains
catalogues describing archives held throughout England and dating from the
900s to the present day.

Accessible only at select Library locations
ABES: Annotated Bibliography of
English Studies
Covers secondary literature in English Studies in four main subject areas:
Language and Linguistics, Cultural Studies, Literary Studies, and Film
Studies.

Free Web resource - available anywhereNew York Online Virtual Electronic
LibraryAcademic One FileThis database has extensive coverage of the
physical sciences, technology, medicine, social sciences, the arts,
theology, literature and more. It also contains some full text titles that
are cited in databases such as AGRICOLA, CINAHL, EconLit, ERIC, MEDLINE,
MLA International Bibliography, PsycINFO and others.

Accessible outside the Library with your NYPL card
Academic Search PremierA
multi-disciplinary database of more than 4,600 magazines and journals,
including full text for nearly 3,900 peer-reviewed titles. In addition to
the full-text, this database offers indexing and abstracts for 8,470
journals.

Accessible only at select Library locations
AccessUN Index, articles and full-text database of United Nations
documents
covering 1998-present.

Accessible only at select Library locations
ACLS Humanities E-Book Project
Provides online access to a fully searchable collection of high-quality
books in the Humanities, recommended and reviewed by scholars.

Free Web resource - available anywhere
AcqWeb's Directory of Publishers and
VendorsProvides links to websites of publishers throughout the world,
searchable by alphabetical, geographical, and topical lists.

And in New York City that is just a small part of the letter A in the
above content sample.

DATABASE OR DATABASES
http://tinyurl.com/mx7p97

INTERNET RESEARCH
http://tinyurl.com/n8mokd

INTERNET SEARCH
http://tinyurl.com/lbacf9

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

What I find most intriguing about this article is that it pretty much says
something that I've said for a long time: The future looks a lot more like
"The Brady Bunch" than "The Jetsons."

Think about it, the Internet is just a tool to them. It's a Swiss Army Knife
kind of thing. It's your old typewriter, your stereo, your encyclopedia,
etc. But wait, I think I said this a lot better in "Back to the
Future?<http://wordfromg.blogspot.com/2009/03/back-to-future.html>
"

These kids are "digital natives" in the same sense that some of you were
"Cable TV Natives" and some of us before you were just plain old "TV
Natives," and most of us are "Print Natives." Because we are natives at *
using* a particular medium doesn't mean that most of us will be, will want
to be, or even should be natives at *producing* for it.

The article made a brief comparison to the automobile, and I think that's
fitting. Most of us are automotive natives in terms of knowing how to drive
one, some of us can do some minor repairs, but do all of us really need to
be able to *build* one from scratch? Is that what being a native means?

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Brian Lee <buffalolee@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,710139,00.html
>
> ......
> And because teenagers are basically inexperienced, they are all the more
> likely to overestimate their own abilities. "They think they're the real
> experts," Scheppler says. "But when it comes down to it, they can't even
> google properly."
> ......
>
> [ For info on ISED-L see https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=128874]
> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, attribution,
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>

Re: Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

Thank you for your message. I am away from school and may have limited
access to email. I will be back in the office on August 18. If you need
immediate assistance, please call or email Katrina
(katrina_wolfe@ajhds.com).
Best regards,
Larry

Article: "Kids that grew up with the Internet are not 'digital natives'"

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,710139,00.html

......
And because teenagers are basically inexperienced, they are all the more
likely to overestimate their own abilities. "They think they're the real
experts," Scheppler says. "But when it comes down to it, they can't even
google properly."
......

Re: Intro to Electronics for Lower School

Science Fair in Net-Gold

<http://www.google.com/search?q=(%22science+fair%22+OR+
%22science+fairs%22)+and+%22net-gold%22+and+
%22temple.edu%22&hl=en&rlz=1T4DAUS_enUS314US314&filter=0>

A shorter URL for the above link:

<http://tinyurl.com/27zs9vb>

INDOOR GARDENING
Improve Your Chances for Indoor Gardening Success
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IndoorGardeningUrban/
http://groups.google.com/group/indoor-gardening-and-urban-gardening

SPORT-MED
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http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/sport-med.html

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Susan Ferris wrote:

> Hi to all---
>
> I spent some time this summer being trained to be a docent at the
> Chatham Marconi Maritime Center in Cape Cod which is all about Guglielmo *
> Marconi*,
> best known for his development of a radio telegraph system, which has
> started me
> thinking about teaching an Intro to Electronics enrichment class to grades
> 3-5.
>
> In checking out some ideas I have come across a snap circuits kit by
> Elenco Electronics that comes with 30 parts which can be constructed and
> deconstructed to make a variety of projects.
>
> Has anyone used this kit?
> How well did the projects work?
>
> It looks like a great way to get kids interested in electronics and provide
> a basic understanding
> of simple circuits---
>
> Thanks.
> Susan Ferris Rights
> sfrights@pingry.org

Intro to Electronics for Lower School

Hi to all---

I spent some time this summer being trained to be a docent at the
Chatham Marconi Maritime Center in Cape Cod which is all about Guglielmo *
Marconi*,
best known for his development of a radio telegraph system, which has
started me
thinking about teaching an Intro to Electronics enrichment class to grades
3-5.

In checking out some ideas I have come across a snap circuits kit by
Elenco Electronics that comes with 30 parts which can be constructed and
deconstructed to make a variety of projects.

Has anyone used this kit?
How well did the projects work?

It looks like a great way to get kids interested in electronics and provide
a basic understanding
of simple circuits---

Thanks.
Susan Ferris Rights
sfrights@pingry.org

--=20
Susan Ferris Rights
susanferris123@gmail.com
908-568-1884

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.=94
Theodore Roosevelt

=93A real friend is one who walks in when the rest of the world walks out.=
=94
Walter Winchell

Saturday, August 7, 2010

Re: New Librarian [MORE LINKS]

DATABASE OR DATABASES
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DATABASE SEARCHING
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DICTIONARIES
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Re: New Librarian

The first and most important tool is a collection of bibliographic databases
and journal aggregation sources that reflect the needs of your users and in
particular the disciplines taught. It is also good to have databases of
reference tools like Credo and those from sources like Oxford Press.
Collections of full text books from sources like NetLibrary which was recently
sold by OCLC to EBSCO would be good. In addition there are many free reference
tools available that may be linked to from library sites and I have documented
many of these on my General Internet & Print Resources Research Guide that is
found on the Temple University LibGuides website and is back up on Google Sites
(use the site map on that guide to get to the Google Sites backup.

General Internet & Print Resources
<http://guides.temple.edu/general-internet>

Databases at Temple:
<http://library.temple.edu/articles/dbfinder/?id=all>

General Reference Tools from the Above Linked Library Research Guide:

General Internet and Print Resources: Dictionaries
Links to Dictionaries and Links to Lists of Dictionaries
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/19051
also
http://tinyurl.com/57jwqr
also
http://tinyurl.com/6l3j8r
.
General Internet and Print Resources: Directories
Covers People and Businesses; Telephone and Street Address;
Directories Of The World: People, Telephone, Businesses;
Medical Including Organizations and Practices;
Business; Government;
Periodicals Books Publications Publishers Newspaper;
Education And Libraries; Law; Research;
Directory Resource Lists
http://groups.google.com/group/net-gold/
browse_thread/thread/58c38c049934db23
also
http://tinyurl.com/6j8x9z
also
http://tinyurl.com/5g62s3
.
General Internet and Print Resources: Encyclopedias
REFERENCE: ENCYCLOPEDIAS :
REFERENCE: ENCYCLOPEDIAS: SUBJECT:
Selected general encyclopedias available on the
internet and and selected online subject specific
encyclopedias as well as selected subject and topic
specific encyclopedia publications available in print.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/19754
also
http://tinyurl.com/6jngry
also
http://tinyurl.com/5dkohd
.
LIBRARY: SUBJECT GUIDES :
INTERNET: SUBJECT GUIDES:
Subject Guides Indexed in the
Intute Academic Resource Directory
Intute is a vast index of high quality tools on the Internet
with directories covering Arts and Humanities;
Health and Life Sciences; Science, Engineering and Technology;
and the Social Sciences. One type of tool indexed by Intute is the
Subject Guide. Subject Guides come from academic library websites,
the Library of Congress, organizations, and virtual libraries.
Inclusion in Intute indicates the listed sites meet Intute standards.
This link leads to subject guides indexed by Intute.
This is a TinyURL that leads to the same search results:
http://tinyurl.com/6llaqm
http://www.intute.ac.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?term1=%
22subject+guide%22+or+%22library+guide%22&limit=
0&subject=All&submit.x=5&submit.y=14
Index to this collection of subject guides
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/24429
.
General Internet and Print Resources:
BIBLIOGRAPHIES : WEBLIOGRAPHIES:
A Selection of General Webliographies and Bibliographies
A Selection of General and Subject Field and
Skill Oriented Webliographies and Bibliographies
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Net-Gold/message/20222
.
ALSO AN EXTENSIVE COLLECTION OF
WEBLIOGRAPHIES AND BIBLIOGRAPHIES
http://tinyurl.com/4x85kf

Friday, August 6, 2010

Re: New Librarian

Dictionary.com

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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:39 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: New Librarian

dictionaries.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2010 02:25 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: New Librarian

I am a current MLS student and I was wondering what you all thought were
the most essential technology tools becides computers to have in your
library. Thanks in advance for all of recomendations. [ For info on
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Re: New Librarian

dictionaries.
-----Original Message-----
From: Erin Colby [mailto:ecolby@EMPORIA.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2010 02:25 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: New Librarian

I am a current MLS student and I was wondering what you all thought were =
the most essential technology tools becides computers to have in your lib=
rary. Thanks in advance for all of recomendations. [ For info on ISED-L s=
ee https://www.gds.org/podium/default.aspx?t=3D128874 ] Submissions to IS=
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Re: Social Networking Policy

Happy Summer! I'm out on vacation and will return Monday, Aug. 23rd.

I will check email sporadically.

Re: Online Gradebook Vendors

I don't know if this meets all the MS SQL specs, but we have been very
pleased with easy grade pro.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Richter, Lavina A. <vrichter@exeter.edu>wrote:

> Hello, all,
>
>
>
> If any of you are using an online gradebook product successfully, would
> you mind sharing the product name, URL or vendor with me? We are
> looking for a product that will allow teachers to track grades (in a
> flexible format, i.e., allowing weighting and letter grades and
> comments), that will also allow students to look at their own grades via
> a browser. We would want a product that is MS SQL based and uses
> LDAP/AD authentication.
>
>
>
> Thanks, Vi
>
>
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Thursday, August 5, 2010

New Librarian

I am a current MLS student and I was wondering what you all thought were
the most essential technology tools becides computers to have in your
library. Thanks in advance for all of recomendations.

Wednesday, August 4, 2010

Re: ISED-L Digest - 3 Aug 2010 to 4 Aug 2010 (#2010-201)

I am on vacation until August 23, 2010. I will reply to all messages when
I return. For an emergency, please contact Roger D'Agostin at
203-801-4835 or call my cell phone at 401-742-6104.
Have a great day,
Elizabeth

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