Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

Absolutely.... we don't have any Linux users (that I know of)... but they are more than welcome to use Open Office .... as long as they can communicate with teachers and other kids.

Stewart Crais
Director of Technology and Information Services
Lausanne Collegiate School
1381 West Massey Road
Memphis, TN 38120
(901) 474-1031 (v)
(901) 682-1696 (f)
scrais@lausanneschool.com
SKYPE: stewart.crais
www.lausanneschool.com

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A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 7:46 PM -0500 wrote:
>Hi Stewart,
>
>How do students meet the requirement of having the latest MS Office Pro
>Suite if they have Linux? Do you allow Open Office if they have the
>ability to save natively in the latest MS file types? Just curious?
>
>Thanks,
>Alex
>
>Alex Inman
>Director of Technology
>Whitfield School
>St. Louis, MO
>314.434.5141
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: A forum for independent school educators
>[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Stewart Crais
>Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:36 AM
>To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>Subject: Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's
>network
>
>We permit any laptop... including Mac and Linux.
>
>Like you and some other posts, we don't have the kids on a file server
>or even on the domain. They are responsible for backing up to usb
>drives, etc.
>
>Stewart Crais
>
>
>A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on
>Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 7:58 AM -0500 wrote:
>>I would assume from the below that you do not permit Macs or Linux
>>laptops?
>>
>>Greg
>>On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Stewart Crais wrote:
>>
>>> We have a 1:1 program at Lausanne and do allow outside laptops. I
>>> have pasted our policy below. We have yet to run into any security
>>> problems since implementing this a few years ago.
>>>
>>> Requirements for Using Your Own Laptop
>>>
>>> If you choose to provide your own laptop, please consider the
>>> following information before making that decision.
>>> Note: There is a required yearly fee of $150.00 (details below) for
>>> students using their own laptop.
>>>
>>> Minimum Hardware / Software Requirements:
>>>
>>> * Processor / Speed: Intel Petium-M / 1.5 GHz
>>> * Memory: 512 MB
>>> * Hard Drive: 20 GB
>>> * Network: Internal Wireless 802.11b/g
>>> * Software (provided by Lausanne and included in $150.00 fee):
>>> o Latest Microsoft Office Pro Suite
>>> o Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition
>>> o First Class E-mail Client
>>> Please note: Because of licensing requirements, all software
>>> provided by Lausanne must be removed when the student leaves
>Lausanne.
>>>
>>>
>>> Other Information:
>>> * No repairs will be made to laptops purchased through sources
>other
>>> than Lausanne
>>> * A loaner will be provided to your child (included in $150.00
>fee)
>>> if his / her laptop is not operational for any period of time.
>>> Loaners kept longer than two weeks incur a daily rental charge of
>>> $20.00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>>> on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 3:24 PM -0500 wrote:
>>>> Afternoon,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
>>>> regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's
>>>> network?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
>>>> laptops?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If your school does allow network access, what policies(please
>>>> share)do
>>>> you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued
>>>> machines?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
>>>> attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your assistance.

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

Hi Stewart,

How do students meet the requirement of having the latest MS Office Pro
Suite if they have Linux? Do you allow Open Office if they have the
ability to save natively in the latest MS file types? Just curious?

Thanks,
Alex

Alex Inman
Director of Technology
Whitfield School
St. Louis, MO
314.434.5141

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Stewart Crais
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:36 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's
network

We permit any laptop... including Mac and Linux.

Like you and some other posts, we don't have the kids on a file server
or even on the domain. They are responsible for backing up to usb
drives, etc.

Stewart Crais

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on
Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 7:58 AM -0500 wrote:
>I would assume from the below that you do not permit Macs or Linux =20
>laptops?
>
>Greg
>On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Stewart Crais wrote:
>
>> We have a 1:1 program at Lausanne and do allow outside laptops. I =20
>> have pasted our policy below. We have yet to run into any security =20
>> problems since implementing this a few years ago.
>>
>> Requirements for Using Your Own Laptop
>>
>> If you choose to provide your own laptop, please consider the =20
>> following information before making that decision.
>> Note: There is a required yearly fee of $150.00 (details below) for =20
>> students using their own laptop.
>>
>> Minimum Hardware / Software Requirements:
>>
>> * Processor / Speed: Intel Petium-M / 1.5 GHz
>> * Memory: 512 MB
>> * Hard Drive: 20 GB
>> * Network: Internal Wireless 802.11b/g
>> * Software (provided by Lausanne and included in $150.00 fee):
>> o Latest Microsoft Office Pro Suite
>> o Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition
>> o First Class E-mail Client
>> Please note: Because of licensing requirements, all software =20
>> provided by Lausanne must be removed when the student leaves
Lausanne.
>>
>>
>> Other Information:
>> * No repairs will be made to laptops purchased through sources
other =20
>> than Lausanne
>> * A loaner will be provided to your child (included in $150.00
fee) =20
>> if his / her laptop is not operational for any period of time. =20
>> Loaners kept longer than two weeks incur a daily rental charge of =20
>> $20.00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> =20
>> on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 3:24 PM -0500 wrote:
>>> Afternoon,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
>>> regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's =20
>>> network?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
>>> laptops?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If your school does allow network access, what policies(please =20
>>> share)do
>>> you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued =20
>>> machines?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
>>> attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hiram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hiram E. Cuevas
>>>
>>> Information Systems Coordinator
>>>
>>> St. Christopher's School
>>>
>>> 711 St. Christopher's Road
>>>
>>> Richmond, VA 23226
>>>
>>> www.stchristophers.com
>>>
>>> 804.282.3185 x627
>>>
>>> 804.347.2338
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Re: Archiving email and limiting attachment size

This is one reason why we don't offer student or faculty email. If
someone want to subpoena someone let them subpoena Google, not us.

Greg
On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Backon, Joel wrote:

> The NAIS attorney told us, at a workshop, not to archive email at all
> except during discovery as outlined by Peter Hoopes. Anything you have
> in your archives (as opposed to a backup, which is a snapshot in
> time),
> is subject to subpoena once a legal proceeding is initiated. You can
> well imagine the types of messages circulating or saved on your email
> server that might sometime have to be turned over to the courts.
>
> _________________________________
> Joel Backon
> Director of Academic Technology / History Teacher
> Choate Rosemary Hall
> 333 Christian St.
> Wallingford, CT 06492
> 203-697-2514
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> are
> addressed.
>
> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender
> immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and any attachments
> and
> destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a
> person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A forum for independent school educators
> [mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hoopes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:34 PM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: Archiving email and limiting attachment size
>
> A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> writes:
>> Second item - length of time to keep the archived emails: 7 years. Is
> this
>> too long?
>
> This is actually a MIS-interpretation of the law. At least our counsel
> and
> several other strong firms in the area have told us, you do NOT have
> to
> keep 7 years worth of email activity. You simply need to have in
> place a
> method by which you CAN keep email during a discovery process should
> get
> involved in one.
>
> If you have consulted your school counsel and they believe 7 years is
> necessary, then so be it. But, if you haven't, don't get caught up in
> all
> of the panic about keeping that much email.
>
> Peter Hoopes
> Director of Technology
> St. Andrew's School
> phoopes@standrews-de.org
> =====================
>
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Re: Archiving email and limiting attachment size

The NAIS attorney told us, at a workshop, not to archive email at all
except during discovery as outlined by Peter Hoopes. Anything you have
in your archives (as opposed to a backup, which is a snapshot in time),
is subject to subpoena once a legal proceeding is initiated. You can
well imagine the types of messages circulating or saved on your email
server that might sometime have to be turned over to the courts.

_________________________________
Joel Backon
Director of Academic Technology / History Teacher
Choate Rosemary Hall
333 Christian St.
Wallingford, CT 06492
203-697-2514
=20
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
addressed.

If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender
immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and any attachments and
destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a
person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized.

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hoopes
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:34 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Archiving email and limiting attachment size

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
writes:
>Second item - length of time to keep the archived emails: 7 years. Is
this
>too long?

This is actually a MIS-interpretation of the law. At least our counsel
and
several other strong firms in the area have told us, you do NOT have to
keep 7 years worth of email activity. You simply need to have in place a
method by which you CAN keep email during a discovery process should get
involved in one.

If you have consulted your school counsel and they believe 7 years is
necessary, then so be it. But, if you haven't, don't get caught up in
all
of the panic about keeping that much email.

Peter Hoopes
Director of Technology
St. Andrew's School
phoopes@standrews-de.org
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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Re: School own laptops and faculty accountability

Hi Bill,
We purchase and provide tablets to our faculty and teacher assistants, =
and laptops to admin staff. Last year we put together an information =
agreement for staff technology use. This was done after observing a =
pattern of instances. We've noted a huge drop after this agreement was =
shared. We also have a lost/damaged equipment report that is filed by =
the staff member. Here's what the agreement says.=20
=20
INFORMATIONAL AGREEMENT FOR ASB STAFF LAPTOP AND TECHNOLOGY USE

In order to facilitate instructional and administrative =
responsibilities, ASB provides laptops to professional staff for their =
use inside and outside the school. All laptops and its accessories are =
provided to staff members for the contracted/employment period of time =
at no cost to the employee and shall remain the property of ASB. =
Policies governing the use of technology, apply to the use of all school =
owned equipment (including the school network, digital cameras, digital =
video cameras, projectors, projector remotes, CD/DVD players, external =
hard drives) at all times whether inside or outside the school premises.

1. ASB will provide a laptop computer with ASB's standard image, =
including the basic operating system, Microsoft Office Professional, ASB =
licensed software and access to the ASB network on campus.

2. The school may assist in the installation of additional software on a =
machine / network only in accordance with licensing agreements and =
copyright regulations.

3. ASB is not responsible for maintenance of / provision of technical =
assistance for any applications or hardware not listed in the standard =
ASB image for school laptops. Should routine troubleshooting fail to =
address software problems, the standard image only will be re-installed.

4. Staff members are responsible for taking a backup of their laptop =
data. The school's responsibility is limited to reloading ASB's standard =
image and retrieval of data stored on the servers. Any cost incurred for =
retrieval of data from the laptop will be billed to the staff member.

5. ASB will provide each employee with a user account enabling them to =
access the network / internet at school.

6. ASB will use network management technologies to protect the network =
from viruses and security violations emanating from any use of the =
laptops.

7. Staff members are expected to protect school laptops and other =
technology equipment loaned to them from damage and theft/misplacement =
and to report all incidences of theft/misplacement and vandalism to the =
equipment within twenty-four (24) hours of their knowledge of the =
loss/damage to the Tech Office.

8. Staff members assume all risks of loss or damage to the laptops due =
to negligence and are expected to return it along with any peripherals =
in the condition in which it was received with the exception of normal =
wear and tear. The same applies to any other technology hardware loaned =
to the staff member.

9. ASB's guidelines for laptop warranty/insurance as well as the terms =
and conditions for non-insurance/non-warranty items (as noted on the =
portal) will be applicable to staff laptops as well. Staff members may =
be held responsible for any damage, loss or theft caused by abuse or =
negligence to any technology equipment loaned to them. For any =
loss/theft outside the school, staff members must file the police =
complaint/organize the paper work to enable the school to file an =
insurance claim.

________________________________

From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of William =
Stites
Sent: Thu 9/27/2007 4:39 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: School own laptops and faculty accountability

I am looking for information relating to policies and guidelines from=20
schools who purchase and provide laptops to faculty. How do you handle:

1. Personal Information - Ownership/copy-write
2. Issues and policy related to loss or damage of the equipment=20
outside of school, particularly how you hold faculty accountable and=20
in what way(s)
3. Administrative Access to the machines - do you allow it
4. Back-up and recovery policies

I am sure there are many other things to consider and anything you=20
might think to add or include would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill

---------------------------------------------------------------------
William D. Stites, Jr.
Director of Technology
The Montclair Kimberley Academy
201 Valley Road
Montclair, NJ 07042
(P) 973-509-4595
(F) 973-509-4596
wstites@montclairkimberley.org
http://www.montclairkimberley.org

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Re: Archiving email and limiting attachment size

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>Second item - length of time to keep the archived emails: 7 years. Is this
>too long?

This is actually a MIS-interpretation of the law. At least our counsel and
several other strong firms in the area have told us, you do NOT have to
keep 7 years worth of email activity. You simply need to have in place a
method by which you CAN keep email during a discovery process should get
involved in one.

If you have consulted your school counsel and they believe 7 years is
necessary, then so be it. But, if you haven't, don't get caught up in all
of the panic about keeping that much email.

Peter Hoopes
Director of Technology
St. Andrew's School
phoopes@standrews-de.org
=====================

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School own laptops and faculty accountability

I am looking for information relating to policies and guidelines from
schools who purchase and provide laptops to faculty. How do you handle:

1. Personal Information - Ownership/copy-write
2. Issues and policy related to loss or damage of the equipment
outside of school, particularly how you hold faculty accountable and
in what way(s)
3. Administrative Access to the machines - do you allow it
4. Back-up and recovery policies

I am sure there are many other things to consider and anything you
might think to add or include would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill

---------------------------------------------------------------------
William D. Stites, Jr.
Director of Technology
The Montclair Kimberley Academy
201 Valley Road
Montclair, NJ 07042
(P) 973-509-4595
(F) 973-509-4596
wstites@montclairkimberley.org
http://www.montclairkimberley.org

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anyone using the drobo from data robotics ???

Anyone using the "drobo" from data robotics ???=20
Curious if it can hold a mirror image from FirstClass server.=20
Bill

___________________
Bill Castell
Technology Coordinator
Boston University Academy
(617) 353-4958
One University Road
Boston, MA=20
bill_castell@buacademy.org

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Archiving email and limiting attachment size

As we begin to pin down our email archiving plan, the size of attachments
(both incoming and outgoing) is a concern.

We are thinking about limiting attachments to 7MB.

Anyone using FirstClass already have a way to limit the size of
attachments?

Second item - length of time to keep the archived emails: 7 years. Is this
too long?

Tom Jordan
Director of Technology
Elmwood Franklin School
104 New Amsterdam Ave.
Buffalo, NY 14216

tjordan@elmwoodfranklin.org

716-877-5035 ext 120

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

Hi, Dave.

Yes, the outside laptops are fully integrated into our 1:1 program. We allow students to purchase them, but we only do minimal service on them (software only). They get a loaner if they need one, for up to two weeks.... then they are charged $20.00 per
day (b/c typically they are dragging their feet on getting their machine repaired). The outside laptops are used in the same manner as the school laptops... we allow any OS. We have been 1:1 for 7 years and started off as requiring only one machine,
but kids are so much for savvy today than they were 7 years ago, that they are able to have something different than what other kids may have. We try and make the ThinkPads that we offer a very attractive option (pricing and service being the top two)
so that they will buy those rather than a $500 Dell (just as an example). We do offer tablets to our kids as well as the R61... so tablets are integrated in the same manner.. some kids have them, some kids don't. Our 1:1 is very much just a part of
what we do here... and we try to make it as easy as possible for all students to participate in a meaningful and affordable way.

Hope this info. helps!

Also.... you are using Senior Systems at your school... right? How do you like it? We are trying to choose between PCR and SS.

Stewart Crais
Director of Technology and Information Services
Lausanne Collegiate School
1381 West Massey Road
Memphis, TN 38120
(901) 474-1031 (v)
(901) 682-1696 (f)
scrais@lausanneschool.com
SKYPE: stewart.crais
www.lausanneschool.com

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A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 9:51 AM -0500 wrote:
>Stuart,
>
>Lausanne is very well know for their 1:1 program. I'm curious about your
>allowing outside laptops? It sounds like the outside laptops are
>integrated in your 1:1 program. Are the outside laptops used in the same
>manner as the "School" laptops within your 1:1 program?
>How does this affect any plans you may have for Tablets?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dave Candelario
>MICDS
>Director of Technology
>314.995.7478
>
>A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>>We have a 1:1 program at Lausanne and do allow outside laptops. I have
>>pasted our policy below. We have yet to run into any security problems
>>since implementing this a few years ago.
>>
>>Requirements for Using Your Own Laptop
>>
>>If you choose to provide your own laptop, please consider the following
>>information before making that decision.
>>Note: There is a required yearly fee of $150.00 (details below) for
>>students using their own laptop.
>>
>>Minimum Hardware / Software Requirements:
>>
>>• Processor / Speed: Intel Petium-M / 1.5 GHz
>>• Memory: 512 MB
>>• Hard Drive: 20 GB
>>• Network: Internal Wireless 802.11b/g
>>• Software (provided by Lausanne and included in $150.00 fee):
>>o Latest Microsoft Office Pro Suite
>>o Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition
>>o First Class E-mail Client
>>Please note: Because of licensing requirements, all software provided by
>>Lausanne must be removed when the student leaves Lausanne.
>>
>>
>>Other Information:
>>• No repairs will be made to laptops purchased through sources other than
>>Lausanne
>>• A loaner will be provided to your child (included in $150.00 fee) if
>>his / her laptop is not operational for any period of time. Loaners kept
>>longer than two weeks incur a daily rental charge of $20.00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on
>>Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 3:24 PM -0500 wrote:
>>>Afternoon,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
>>>regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's network?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
>>>laptops?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If your school does allow network access, what policies(please share)do
>>>you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued machines?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
>>>attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for your assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hiram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hiram E. Cuevas
>>>
>>>Information Systems Coordinator
>>>
>>>St. Christopher's School
>>>
>>>711 St. Christopher's Road
>>>
>>>Richmond, VA 23226
>>>
>>>www.stchristophers.com
>>>
>>>804.282.3185 x627
>>>
>>>804.347.2338
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

Stuart,

Lausanne is very well know for their 1:1 program. I'm curious about your
allowing outside laptops? It sounds like the outside laptops are
integrated in your 1:1 program. Are the outside laptops used in the same
manner as the "School" laptops within your 1:1 program?
How does this affect any plans you may have for Tablets?

Thanks.

Dave Candelario
MICDS
Director of Technology
314.995.7478

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes:
>We have a 1:1 program at Lausanne and do allow outside laptops. I have
>pasted our policy below. We have yet to run into any security problems
>since implementing this a few years ago.
>
>Requirements for Using Your Own Laptop
>
>If you choose to provide your own laptop, please consider the following
>information before making that decision.
>Note: There is a required yearly fee of $150.00 (details below) for
>students using their own laptop.
>
>Minimum Hardware / Software Requirements:
>
>• Processor / Speed: Intel Petium-M / 1.5 GHz
>• Memory: 512 MB
>• Hard Drive: 20 GB
>• Network: Internal Wireless 802.11b/g
>• Software (provided by Lausanne and included in $150.00 fee):
>o Latest Microsoft Office Pro Suite
>o Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition
>o First Class E-mail Client
>Please note: Because of licensing requirements, all software provided by
>Lausanne must be removed when the student leaves Lausanne.
>
>
>Other Information:
>• No repairs will be made to laptops purchased through sources other than
>Lausanne
>• A loaner will be provided to your child (included in $150.00 fee) if
>his / her laptop is not operational for any period of time. Loaners kept
>longer than two weeks incur a daily rental charge of $20.00
>
>
>
>
>A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on
>Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 3:24 PM -0500 wrote:
>>Afternoon,
>>
>>
>>
>>What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
>>regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's network?
>>
>>
>>
>>Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
>>laptops?
>>
>>
>>
>>If your school does allow network access, what policies(please share)do
>>you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued machines?
>>
>>
>>
>>What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
>>attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?
>>
>>
>>Thanks for your assistance.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hiram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Hiram E. Cuevas
>>
>>Information Systems Coordinator
>>
>>St. Christopher's School
>>
>>711 St. Christopher's Road
>>
>>Richmond, VA 23226
>>
>>www.stchristophers.com
>>
>>804.282.3185 x627
>>
>>804.347.2338
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
>>Submissions to ISED-L are released under a Creative Commons license.
>>
>
>
>
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Academic "Redshirting"

I am writing an article about the trend of letting kids with summer (and
now spring and even late winter) birthdays wait a year before starting
Kindergarten.

I am trying to find information on the high school and middle school
performance of kids who enrolled in Kindergarten "on time," turning 6
during the school year or summer after Kindergarten, compared with those
who waited and turned 7 during the Kindergarten school year.

I have read a lot of articles and statistics about the benefits and
concerns with this trend, but most of the information about later
performance deals with kids who are from underperforming public schools,
economically disadvantaged families, etc. I am looking at the current
trend of parents who can afford to keep their kids out of school for
another year. These parents aren't necessarily delaying Kindergarten
because their kids are not ready; they often see an opportunity for the
child to be the oldest and perhaps to excel in the classroom. It is also
viewed as a way for kids to have better social skills when they enter
schoool. In the past the trend was for boys with summer birthdays to wait.
Now, it seems, even girls with summer or late spring birthdays are waiting
a year. Is this broader range of ages having an effect on classroom
dynamics in the early elementary grades?

I am also interested in how programs have adapted to such trends (there
was a Newsweek article last year about Kindergarten being the "new 1st
grade"). Are programs becoming more rigorous to accomodate the older
children, making it harder for the younger kids to keep up? What about
when these older kids are in middle school? Is there a difference between
the older kids and their classmates? Are the older kids still performing
better, do they have higher confidence levels, etc. than their peers?

I'm not sure that there has been much research on this, so I doubt there
are any real statistics. I'm interested in personal antecdotes, opinions,
any information that might be out there.

Also, do any elementary schools have policies/statements about when it's
best for a child to start Kindergarten? I know that most independent
schools keep their listed enroll dates in line with whatever the state
public school requirements are (anywhere from 6 by December of
Kindergarten to 6 by June before the start of Kindergarten). Are there
any schools that make recommendations that kids start later?

Thanks so much for any information you can provide!

Karen Padilla
Middle School Librarian
Baylor School
Chattanooga, TN
karen_padilla@baylorschool.org

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

We permit any laptop... including Mac and Linux.

Like you and some other posts, we don't have the kids on a file server or even on the domain. They are responsible for backing up to usb drives, etc.

Stewart Crais

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 7:58 AM -0500 wrote:
>I would assume from the below that you do not permit Macs or Linux
>laptops?
>
>Greg
>On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Stewart Crais wrote:
>
>> We have a 1:1 program at Lausanne and do allow outside laptops. I
>> have pasted our policy below. We have yet to run into any security
>> problems since implementing this a few years ago.
>>
>> Requirements for Using Your Own Laptop
>>
>> If you choose to provide your own laptop, please consider the
>> following information before making that decision.
>> Note: There is a required yearly fee of $150.00 (details below) for
>> students using their own laptop.
>>
>> Minimum Hardware / Software Requirements:
>>
>> • Processor / Speed: Intel Petium-M / 1.5 GHz
>> • Memory: 512 MB
>> • Hard Drive: 20 GB
>> • Network: Internal Wireless 802.11b/g
>> • Software (provided by Lausanne and included in $150.00 fee):
>> o Latest Microsoft Office Pro Suite
>> o Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition
>> o First Class E-mail Client
>> Please note: Because of licensing requirements, all software
>> provided by Lausanne must be removed when the student leaves Lausanne.
>>
>>
>> Other Information:
>> • No repairs will be made to laptops purchased through sources other
>> than Lausanne
>> • A loaner will be provided to your child (included in $150.00 fee)
>> if his / her laptop is not operational for any period of time.
>> Loaners kept longer than two weeks incur a daily rental charge of
>> $20.00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>> on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 3:24 PM -0500 wrote:
>>> Afternoon,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
>>> regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's
>>> network?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
>>> laptops?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If your school does allow network access, what policies(please
>>> share)do
>>> you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued
>>> machines?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
>>> attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hiram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hiram E. Cuevas
>>>
>>> Information Systems Coordinator
>>>
>>> St. Christopher's School
>>>
>>> 711 St. Christopher's Road
>>>
>>> Richmond, VA 23226
>>>
>>> www.stchristophers.com
>>>
>>> 804.282.3185 x627
>>>
>>> 804.347.2338
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a Creative Commons license.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
>> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a Creative Commons license.
>
>[ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
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>

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

I would assume from the below that you do not permit Macs or Linux =20
laptops?

Greg
On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Stewart Crais wrote:

> We have a 1:1 program at Lausanne and do allow outside laptops. I =20
> have pasted our policy below. We have yet to run into any security =20=

> problems since implementing this a few years ago.
>
> Requirements for Using Your Own Laptop
>
> If you choose to provide your own laptop, please consider the =20
> following information before making that decision.
> Note: There is a required yearly fee of $150.00 (details below) for =20=

> students using their own laptop.
>
> Minimum Hardware / Software Requirements:
>
> =95 Processor / Speed: Intel Petium-M / 1.5 GHz
> =95 Memory: 512 MB
> =95 Hard Drive: 20 GB
> =95 Network: Internal Wireless 802.11b/g
> =95 Software (provided by Lausanne and included in $150.00 fee):
> o Latest Microsoft Office Pro Suite
> o Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition
> o First Class E-mail Client
> Please note: Because of licensing requirements, all software =20
> provided by Lausanne must be removed when the student leaves Lausanne.
>
>
> Other Information:
> =95 No repairs will be made to laptops purchased through sources =
other =20
> than Lausanne
> =95 A loaner will be provided to your child (included in $150.00 =
fee) =20
> if his / her laptop is not operational for any period of time. =20
> Loaners kept longer than two weeks incur a daily rental charge of =20
> $20.00
>
>
>
>
> A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> =20
> on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 3:24 PM -0500 wrote:
>> Afternoon,
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
>> regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's =20
>> network?
>>
>>
>>
>> Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
>> laptops?
>>
>>
>>
>> If your school does allow network access, what policies(please =20
>> share)do
>> you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued =20
>> machines?
>>
>>
>>
>> What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
>> attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hiram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hiram E. Cuevas
>>
>> Information Systems Coordinator
>>
>> St. Christopher's School
>>
>> 711 St. Christopher's Road
>>
>> Richmond, VA 23226
>>
>> www.stchristophers.com
>>
>> 804.282.3185 x627
>>
>> 804.347.2338
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
>> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a Creative Commons license.
>>
>
>
>
> [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
> Submissions to ISED-L are released under a Creative Commons license.

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

We just use USB pen drives, The student carries their documents from
computer to computer. Part of the process is to know how to open, edit
and save your documents on all three kinds o operating systems. If a
student had really big files, say a movie, he would simply need a
bigger USB drive. We teach them about backups but as Joseph Smith, Jr.
said "I teach them correct principles and the govern themselves."

Greg
On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:00 AM, Jim Heynderickx wrote:

> I've now worked at two schools with systems and policies similar to
> Greg Kearney. In the Middle School, the school provides standardized
> and supported laptops for the students to use (and take home). In the
> Upper School, students can choose, use and support their own laptops.
> We ensure that there is anti-virus, support for connecting to network
> services, and basic trouble-shooting support to the student-owned
> machines.
>
> In the seven years of doing this, I haven't found security risks from
> broadcast viruses or similar worries to be a major factor, especially
> if your wireless network is on a VLAN so that broadcast issues are
> limited. I'm also considering a second Meru Networks deployment for
> a centrally controlled high density wireless solution, and it can also
> limit which broadcast ports are even heard by the access points.
>
> I also like how Greg touches on the idea of not having file servers
> for students. I actually have a specific meeting with my staff about
> this very issue this morning. To me, I would like to recommend or
> provide a comprehensive backup and access solution for student files,
> instead of one that is only good for 5 or 50 megs on a network file
> server. I'm interested in alternatives that would put the control and
> responsibility in the hands of the students-- such as external hard
> drives that are taken home, or student-run unlimited online backups
> via a service like Mozy.
>
> Thanks, and good luck with the planning.
>
> Jim Heynderickx
> Director of Technology
> American School in London
>
> On 9/25/07, Greg Kearney <kearney@tribcsp.com> wrote:
>> We permit, and encourage students to bring their own computers to
>> school, we do not issue or have school laptops.
>>
>> As we do not have servers with storage or that people connect to we
>> have few concerns as to security. We do check the windows PC's for
>> anti-virus software before permitting them to connect.
>
> [ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
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Re: Software Storage at your school

If the computer is personal, then we allow them to install their own
software.
If it is a school owned computer, then all software purchases and
installations must go through the Department of Technology.=20

In answer to your questions:
The technology department keeps all original software disks. Copies
are made for backup purposes only and are stored in a separate location.
We do not allow teacher owned software on the school computers. If the
software is needed by the teacher, the school will purchase a copy.

The main reason we have such a strict policy, is so that we can keep
accurate licensing records and stay compliant.

Jeff Dayton
Director of Technology
The Madeira School
703-556-8342

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Hickey
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:17 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Software Storage at your school

Good morning, all! I have a question, the answer to which some might
consider obvious, yet a perplexing one to me: Does you school have a
policy about installing software on faculty computers?=20

By policy, I must become more specific: (1) Does the technology
department keep the software? (2) Do the teachers keep the software? (3)
Does the technology department make copies of the software and return
the original copies to the teacher? (4) Does the technology department
make copies of the software and return that to the teacher? (5) If the
teacher owns the software, would your school permit him/her to keep the
software in the classroom? These questions may be in conflict with one
another, but these are the questions I have been facing at my school. I
have no answers right now, just questions.=20

Thanks so much

=20
Philip W Hickey
Graland School
30 Birch Street
Denver, CO 80220

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Cuevas,
Hiram
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:24 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network
=20
Afternoon,

=20

What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's network?

=20

Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
laptops?

=20

If your school does allow network access, what policies(please share)do
you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued machines?

=20

What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?

Thanks for your assistance.

=20

Hiram

=20

=20

=20

Hiram E. Cuevas

Information Systems Coordinator

St. Christopher's School

711 St. Christopher's Road

Richmond, VA 23226

www.stchristophers.com

804.282.3185 x627

804.347.2338

=20

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ISED-L are released under a Creative Commons license.

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Software Storage at your school

Good morning, all! I have a question, the answer to which some might =
consider obvious, yet a perplexing one to me: Does you school have a =
policy about installing software on faculty computers?=20

By policy, I must become more specific: (1) Does the technology =
department keep the software? (2) Do the teachers keep the software? (3) =
Does the technology department make copies of the software and return =
the original copies to the teacher? (4) Does the technology department =
make copies of the software and return that to the teacher? (5) If the =
teacher owns the software, would your school permit him/her to keep the =
software in the classroom? These questions may be in conflict with one =
another, but these are the questions I have been facing at my school. I =
have no answers right now, just questions.=20

Thanks so much

=20
Philip W Hickey
Graland School
30 Birch Street
Denver, CO 80220

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Cuevas, =
Hiram
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:24 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network
=20
Afternoon,

=20

What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's network?

=20

Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
laptops?

=20

If your school does allow network access, what policies(please share)do
you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued machines?

=20

What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?

Thanks for your assistance.

=20

Hiram

=20

=20

=20

Hiram E. Cuevas

Information Systems Coordinator

St. Christopher's School

711 St. Christopher's Road

Richmond, VA 23226

www.stchristophers.com

804.282.3185 x627

804.347.2338

=20

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

I've now worked at two schools with systems and policies similar to
Greg Kearney. In the Middle School, the school provides standardized
and supported laptops for the students to use (and take home). In the
Upper School, students can choose, use and support their own laptops.
We ensure that there is anti-virus, support for connecting to network
services, and basic trouble-shooting support to the student-owned
machines.

In the seven years of doing this, I haven't found security risks from
broadcast viruses or similar worries to be a major factor, especially
if your wireless network is on a VLAN so that broadcast issues are
limited. I'm also considering a second Meru Networks deployment for
a centrally controlled high density wireless solution, and it can also
limit which broadcast ports are even heard by the access points.

I also like how Greg touches on the idea of not having file servers
for students. I actually have a specific meeting with my staff about
this very issue this morning. To me, I would like to recommend or
provide a comprehensive backup and access solution for student files,
instead of one that is only good for 5 or 50 megs on a network file
server. I'm interested in alternatives that would put the control and
responsibility in the hands of the students-- such as external hard
drives that are taken home, or student-run unlimited online backups
via a service like Mozy.

Thanks, and good luck with the planning.

Jim Heynderickx
Director of Technology
American School in London

On 9/25/07, Greg Kearney <kearney@tribcsp.com> wrote:
> We permit, and encourage students to bring their own computers to
> school, we do not issue or have school laptops.
>
> As we do not have servers with storage or that people connect to we
> have few concerns as to security. We do check the windows PC's for
> anti-virus software before permitting them to connect.

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

We have a 1:1 program at Lausanne and do allow outside laptops. I have pasted our policy below. We have yet to run into any security problems since implementing this a few years ago.

Requirements for Using Your Own Laptop

If you choose to provide your own laptop, please consider the following information before making that decision.
Note: There is a required yearly fee of $150.00 (details below) for students using their own laptop.

Minimum Hardware / Software Requirements:

• Processor / Speed: Intel Petium-M / 1.5 GHz
• Memory: 512 MB
• Hard Drive: 20 GB
• Network: Internal Wireless 802.11b/g
• Software (provided by Lausanne and included in $150.00 fee):
o Latest Microsoft Office Pro Suite
o Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition
o First Class E-mail Client
Please note: Because of licensing requirements, all software provided by Lausanne must be removed when the student leaves Lausanne.

Other Information:
• No repairs will be made to laptops purchased through sources other than Lausanne
• A loaner will be provided to your child (included in $150.00 fee) if his / her laptop is not operational for any period of time. Loaners kept longer than two weeks incur a daily rental charge of $20.00

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 3:24 PM -0500 wrote:
>Afternoon,
>
>
>
>What is the general opinion of tech director's and network managers
>regarding nonschool issued laptops to connect to the school's network?
>
>
>
>Does your school also allow internet access with nonschool issued
>laptops?
>
>
>
>If your school does allow network access, what policies(please share)do
>you have in place regarding support for these nonschool issued machines?
>
>
>
>What prerequisites does your school have for the guest machine to
>attach? Antivirus, patches, spyware protection etc.?
>
>
>Thanks for your assistance.
>
>
>
>Hiram
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hiram E. Cuevas
>
>Information Systems Coordinator
>
>St. Christopher's School
>
>711 St. Christopher's Road
>
>Richmond, VA 23226
>
>www.stchristophers.com
>
>804.282.3185 x627
>
>804.347.2338
>
>
>
>
>[ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
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>

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Re: Connecting Nonschool issued laptops to your school's network

Hello,

Our school has an Aruba wireless concentrator that allows us to have a
secure internal wireless network and a Guest network. Students (and
guests) are allowed to connect any wireless device to our Guest network
with the understanding that they can only use HTTP/HTTPS to browse out to
the Internet and are constrained to a shared slice of our Internet
connection.
Since the wireless concentrator blocks most traffic from our internal
network we are not concerned with policing virus software or security
patches.

Secured wireless devices get much greater access to the network.

Our library does also have a set of 10 wireless laptops that are available
for student/class use here. We have a small cart in a storage area to
house them, though it would be much more efficient if we had shelving set
up for them.

Jim Bologna
Director of Technology
Co-Director of the Teaching and Learning Center
Windward School

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