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Newer Apple computers are frequently incompatible with older versions of
the OS. This has occurred many times through Apple history, most
obviously with the Intel switch (which apple was kind enough to do in
January and save us all some headaches). =20
It is likely that you can't netboot a Tiger mac until you install the
recent 10.4.11 server update but I would give that a few weeks to shake
out (As I would the Tiger Server Admin Tools). I have heard of
santarosa based macs still having issues after 10.4.11, but they have
been out in the MacBook Pro for some time so it likely the firmware and
not the chip.
Often you can use Carbon Copy Cloner, or NetRestore locally to force an
image on (http://www.bombich.com/). But this is unlikely to work in
this case given the custom Leopard on the new mac books and the likely
incompatible firmware. My new MacBook is still in Santa's workshop but
I will be testing it. =20
I would talk to your Apple rep and see if you can get older "Tiger
Compatible" MacBooks, especially if you need them in volume. They should
still have them for a few more weeks given the recent switch. Regardless
I would build a new, Tiger image and maintain two images to start
testing for next year. I had to do this with 10.4 (due to a late iBook
order) and the Intel switch. This and the discontinuation of the OS9
compatibility has caught more than a few off guard. There are ways of
custom building an installer DVD to circumvent restrictions on
installation. I have found these successful for installing new OS on to
older, unsupported machines, but never worked installing old OS on to
newer. Also of dubious legality.
Macintouch maintains a list of compatible programs that is pretty
comprehensive and includes anticipated dates for Tiger compatible
releases and tends to be more reliable than forums. Adobe CS3, for
example, is compatible with the small exception of automation:
http://www.macintouch.com/leopard/compat.html=20
As to Tiger being recalled ... There was an update released last week
and sometimes Apple stores will pull the old copies ... But it was
available in my local stores this weekend and on Amazon et al.
Hope this helps.
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From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Cohen
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:22 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Help with Apple Leopard OS
Hello everyone, just as we are getting ready to enjoy our Thanksgiving
Break, I had this problem with a new Apple MacBook (SantaRosa chip) that
was delivered to our school: We are now receiving new MacBooks that
come with Leopard pre installed. These units do not see out network
netboot and will not load Tiger. I spent this morning at the Apple
store after being told by Apple Tech Support that we need a non-machine
specific Tiger to get this new MacBook to image on our network. In
fact, Apple recalled all versions of Tiger, you cannot purchase it
anymore. Moreover, I was told that the chipset is so different on the
new MacBooks, that it is not backwards caompatible.
If you go to Mac Formum, you will see pages of software that Leopard is
not compatible with including our email system, our student information
system, Adobe CS3, FileMaker Pro and others. I can't imagine that our
educaional software will work either. Do you know of any way to get
this machine to accept our image? This will become a huge problem for
us and for any school using Apples e a huge problem for us and for any
school using Apples. I am hoping that all of the tech support people
and Apple Geniuses are wrong and that there is a fix that will allow me
to image this MacBook with my Tiger image.
If you know of anything, please email me.
Elizabeth Cohen
Director of Technology
Atlanta Girls' School
Atlanta GA 30327
404-604-2808
ecohen@atlantagirlsschool.org
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