Sunday, February 28, 2010

Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

Hi!

I remember an old Big Dogs t-shirt - "When you're not the lead dog,
the view never changes." So David, I would answer you by saying I in
no way want the death of our leadership. But I want to be in a
position where the view does change, and at age 50, I do not want to
wait. I am perfectly willing (if greatly saddened) to leave behind
people who, to paraphrase Lee Iacocca of all people, neither lead,
follow, nor get out of the way. The questions to me are, where are we
going, where should we be going, and what is the role of leadership in
getting us there?

I see many of the visionaries in public schools moving towards the
idea of school as resource center. Traditional classes, online
learning, shop and vocational training, opportunities for
appprenticeship and mentorship, flexible hours, flexible programming,
and more would define this school of the future. It would try to be
all things to all students, or more precisely, different things to
different students. It sounds to me like a pretty exciting idea. It
also sounds like a long, complicated road to get there, with many
roadblocks along the way, especially for public schools.

Perhaps therein lies an opportunity for independent schools, who in
recent years have seemed increasingly willing and able to take
advantage of the flexibility to innovate which we enjoy, unfettered as
we are by NLCB, high-stakes exit exams and state testing, and all the
rigamarole that passes for "reform" among far too many politicians,
think tanks, and the media.

Maybe, too, part of the key here is to think about what the "death of
education" and "the birth of learning as we need it" actually mean.
When I think of the death of education, I think of the death of the
idea of a monolithic entity within which wise adults transfer their
hard-won knowledge to students. When I think of the birth of learning
as we need it, I think of finding a way to help each kid learn what
s/he needs to for that person's individual path in life, in some cases
learning what the path is in the first place, while doing a reasonable
job of keeping options open along the way.

I could easily see our leadership taking us in this direction. As I've
said before, I think there's a place for traditional education in the
mix. And within the world of independent education, we don't even need
a "one school for all" model as I outlined above. Different schools
could fill different niches depending on where they are and who they
might best serve. My school is the only all-girls school for some
distance in any direction, and might well want to shift one day in the
future toward a multiple pathways to learning model. But down near
Hartford, where there is a plethora of schools, maybe Westover, Ethel
Walker, Miss Porters, Avon, Westminster, et al each offer a different
focus - for example, maybe Westover focuses on a blend of face-to-face
and online learning for girls (given their major role in the excellent
Online School for Girls).

In short, I don't think the death of education means the death of
leadership. But I do think leadership needs to focus on the birth of
learning as we need it.

Take care,
Bill Ivey
Stoneleigh-Burnham School

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:46 PM, David F. Withrow
<DavidWithrow@harfordday.org> wrote:
> So after all the words have been said what are we gonna do ...
>
> Whose death is it? Education or our Leadership? =A0I wonder, Pat Bassett.=
I suspect it is our leadership. Can we wait?

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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

Amongst all whom have responded about their experiences at NAIS


[ http://collabcorner.blogspot.com/2010/02/future-of-teaching-extending-o=
ur.html
]The
Future of Teaching =96 Extending our Imaginations

Thursday at NAIS ended with a stimulating panel discussion focused on stu=
dents in the
digital age and how they learn. Four =93thought leaders=94 gathered to pr=
esent their
perspective on how children learn: Megan Smith V.P. at Google, Milton Che=
n of the George
Lucas Foundation, Wanda Martinez president of the New Tech Network, and S=
helley Goldman,
professor of ed. at Stanford University. The panel was ably moderated by =
Wanda Holland
Greene, head of the Hamlin School.=20
The panelists opened with statements about their view of the future of le=
arning. Comments
included:

=B7 The future is networking and interconnection=20
=B7 We have to adapt to our students - we have to stop telling our studen=
ts to adapt to us.
=B7 Technology that enables/culture that empowers/teaching that engages a=
re required.
=B7 Back to John Dewey - His ideas were about putting students in touch w=
ith their own
learning. An example is project-based learning=20
=B7 School life should be more like real life.
=B7 Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself - Joh=
n Dewey=20

AND

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes=
: from Fred
Bartels


.. has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power of
Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."

There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they all a=
re
close variations of the following:

"The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we need it.=
"


So after all the words have been said what are we gonna do ...=20


Whose death is it? Education or our Leadership? I wonder, Pat Bassett. I=
suspect it is
our leadership. Can we wait?

(my bad)=20
David F. Withrow
Director of Technology
Harford Day School
Bel Air, Maryland 21014
voice: 410 809 2406
fax: 410 836 5918
cell: 443 876 3422
skype: dfwithrow
http://www.harfordday.org

"What we want is to see the child inpursuit of knowledge, and not=20
knowledge in pursuit of the child."- George Bernard Shaw

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.=20
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practic=
e, there is.
- Yogi Berra


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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

Amongst all whom have responded about their experiences at NAIS


[ http://collabcorner.blogspot.com/2010/02/future-of-teaching-extending-o=
ur.html
]The
Future of Teaching =96 Extending our Imaginations

Thursday at NAIS ended with a stimulating panel discussion focused on stu=
dents in the
digital age and how they learn. Four =93thought leaders=94 gathered to pr=
esent their
perspective on how children learn: Megan Smith V.P. at Google, Milton Che=
n of the George
Lucas Foundation, Wanda Martinez president of the New Tech Network, and S=
helley Goldman,
professor of ed. at Stanford University. The panel was ably moderated by =
Wanda Holland
Greene, head of the Hamlin School.=20
The panelists opened with statements about their view of the future of le=
arning. Comments
included:

=B7 The future is networking and interconnection=20
=B7 We have to adapt to our students - we have to stop telling our studen=
ts to adapt to us.
=B7 Technology that enables/culture that empowers/teaching that engages a=
re required.
=B7 Back to John Dewey - His ideas were about putting students in touch w=
ith their own
learning. An example is project-based learning=20
=B7 School life should be more like real life.
=B7 Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself - Joh=
n Dewey=20

AND

A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> writes=
: from Fred
Bartels


.. has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power of
Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."

There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they all a=
re
close variations of the following:

"The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we need it.=
"


So after all the words have been said what are we gonna do ...=20


Whose death is it? Education or our Leadership? I wonder, Pat Bassett. I=
suspect it is
our leadership. Can we wait?

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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

Hi!

Ah, Jenni, you're both shaking me up and inspiring me as you so often
do, both in highlighting this quote (sad but true for many in our
profession) and in your thoughtful blog entry. I think many of us on
ISED-L are way out on the cutting edge of 100-year-old progressivism
(!), and I think many of us are frequently frustrated with others in
the field (sometimes in our own schools, sometimes not) who see only
"traditional" teaching in the rear view mirror.

At the same time, I have begun (reluctantly) to bow to the point of
view that some people really prefer "education as we have it" to
"learning as we need it." This could be alumni who have happy memories
of their own time in school, parents who feel that "traditional"
teaching did just fine by them thank you very much, students who
believe that "traditional" teaching awaits them in their future
classrooms and progressive learning won't prepare them. I was
introduced today by Larry Ferlazzo to a blog by Larry Cuban which
eschews "either-or" thinking on this and other issues for more of a
"both-and" approach. My own thinking tends to a "both-and" mode as
well.

My school resisted starting a middle school program for years. Among
the strongest resistance came from faculty who said they signed up to
teach in a high school, loved high school teaching but didn't feel
comfortable with middle school students, and didn't want any part of a
middle school. And you know what? If that's how they felt, then of
course they shouldn't be part of a middle school. And they aren't. All
teachers at my school are happily working with the age group(s) they
prefer, as far as I know at any rate.

So maybe part of the shift will come in acknowledging that different
people learn - and teach - differently. Different schools can go in
different directions, or set up parallel paths to graduation (however
that becomes defined in the future). All that matters is that students
of different learning styles and needs find those needs met and are
happily preparing themselves for their adult lives.

Take care,
Bill Ivey
Stoneleigh-Burnham School

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Jennifer Voorhees
<voorheesj@sidwell.edu> wrote:
> I also appreciated this comment made in the roundtable discussion...
>
> =93We are so comfortable with what we have today, we look for confirmatio=
n of our existing hypothesis. We look in the rearview mirror. The future ei=
ther looks like the present or a lot like the past in most of our imaginati=
ons.=94
>
> More about this session on my blog: http://collabcorner.blogspot.com

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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

I want to echo the thoughts and thanks to those at NAIS who reported, shared
reflections, and who live-blogged the various sessions.

As someone who was unable to attend, It allowed me a glimpse and an
opportunity to trade thoughts and ideas with others in this fine community.

What I am currently enjoying is the conversation which is continuing after
the fact, which in fact, is amplifying the original thoughts. I appreciate
that about this community.

These conversations are especially enlightening given my set of reading,
Jacob's *Curriculum 21, *Pink's *Drive, *and Goden's *Linchpin.*

This upcoming week, I will be traveling to New York to attend the TEDxNYED
conference (www.tedxnyed.com). I will be doing my best to replicate
the graciousness of Chris, Demetri, and others by tweeting and live-blogging
as much of the conference as I can. I also look forward to meeting many of
you for the first time, face to face.

Vinnie

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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

I also appreciated this comment made in the roundtable discussion =
between Megan Smith V.P. at Google, Milton Chen of the George Lucas =
Foundation, Wanda Martinez president of the New Tech Network, and =
Shelley Goldman, professor of ed. at Stanford University.=20

=93We are so comfortable with what we have today, we look for =
confirmation of our existing hypothesis. We look in the rearview mirror. =
The future either looks like the present or a lot like the past in most =
of our imaginations.=94

More about this session on my blog: http://collabcorner.blogspot.com=20

Jenni Swanson Voorhees
Sidwell Friends School


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From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Constantine, =
Norman
Sent: Sun 2/28/2010 6:41 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual =
conference...
=20
We will start to learn when we abolish school.....

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Fred Bartels <fredbartels@gmail.com> =
wrote:

> ... has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power of
> Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."
>
> There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they =
all are
> close variations of the following:
>
> "The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we need =
it."
>
> A live blog of the session by Jason Ramsden is available here:
> http://bit.ly/dkfWZe
> (A huge thanks to Jason and others (http://bit.ly/d4Sz3K) for making =
the
> conference come alive for virtual attendees!)
>
> But back to Pat's interesting observation, which seemed to resonate so
> strongly with the edtech folks.
>
> I can imagine John Dewey smiling benevolently on hearing this =
statement. I
> can also imagine many Heads having a somewhat different expression.
>
> Curious what others think?
>
> Fred
>
> --
> Fred Bartels
> Thinking about learning as we need it here:
> http://eva2.wikispaces.com/
>
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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

We will start to learn when we abolish school.....

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Fred Bartels <fredbartels@gmail.com> wrote:

> ... has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power of
> Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."
>
> There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they all are
> close variations of the following:
>
> "The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we need it."
>
> A live blog of the session by Jason Ramsden is available here:
> http://bit.ly/dkfWZe
> (A huge thanks to Jason and others (http://bit.ly/d4Sz3K) for making the
> conference come alive for virtual attendees!)
>
> But back to Pat's interesting observation, which seemed to resonate so
> strongly with the edtech folks.
>
> I can imagine John Dewey smiling benevolently on hearing this statement. I
> can also imagine many Heads having a somewhat different expression.
>
> Curious what others think?
>
> Fred
>
> --
> Fred Bartels
> Thinking about learning as we need it here:
> http://eva2.wikispaces.com/
>
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--
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Director of Technology Integration
Wakefield School
The Plains, VA

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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

Hi All-
I too want to thank Chris and all NAIS attendees for bringing the conference
to the rest of us. I need another week to catch up on all the posts. (Chris
- the blog has been great). What has really impressed me this year is
thinking how far NAIS (and Pat Bassett) has come in 2 or 3 years. It wasn't
too long ago that we were wondering why Pat wasn't blogging and now look at
the statements coming from him. I think it's a great step.

Thanks again to all of you who attended and live blogged and twitterer with
#naisac10 - your presence is appreciated and I know you are part of the push
to keep NAIS moving in the right direction.

We still have a ways to go - but at least we are feeling some motion,
page


On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Bill Ivey <bivey01370@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I want to echo Susan's thanks to Chris et al. It really was almost
> like being there, and i am so appreciative!
>
> I also loved Pat's remark - I've included it in a draft of my last
> SBMS blog entry on naisac10 (hopefully, it will go on the site
> tomorrow). Thanks for bringing it up here, Fred! I'm sure some Heads
> of School blanched, others went "Hmmm.," and still others went "Yes,
> Pat's right... however we can get there." Steve, I think you're right,
> a lot of opposition to moving in that direction will come from within
> our profession. Heads of School who want ensure a complete focus on
> learning and not "education" will also need to convince alumni,
> parents current and prospective, and even many of the students.
>
> But then, Dennis Littky is already at least 90% of the way there
> (putting a semi-random percentage on it). In public school world, yet,
> with all the stumbling bloks that entails. It can be done!
>
> Take care,
> Bill Ivey
> Stoneleigh-Burnham School
>
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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

Hi!

I want to echo Susan's thanks to Chris et al. It really was almost
like being there, and i am so appreciative!

I also loved Pat's remark - I've included it in a draft of my last
SBMS blog entry on naisac10 (hopefully, it will go on the site
tomorrow). Thanks for bringing it up here, Fred! I'm sure some Heads
of School blanched, others went "Hmmm.," and still others went "Yes,
Pat's right... however we can get there." Steve, I think you're right,
a lot of opposition to moving in that direction will come from within
our profession. Heads of School who want ensure a complete focus on
learning and not "education" will also need to convince alumni,
parents current and prospective, and even many of the students.

But then, Dennis Littky is already at least 90% of the way there
(putting a semi-random percentage on it). In public school world, yet,
with all the stumbling bloks that entails. It can be done!

Take care,
Bill Ivey
Stoneleigh-Burnham School

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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

Chris, thanks for all you did to allow those of us who were not able
to attend--to attend. Also, please note, we have an independent
schools diigo group here that many of us have been using for some time:
http://groups.diigo.com/group/independent-school-collaboration
Susan

On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Bigenho, Chris wrote:

> People are still posting reflections to Twitter so keep looking for
> updates.. I will also be posting additional reflections to the
> community blog for those who have attended in person or virtually.
> It would really be great to get reflections from individuals who
> attended live blogging sessions or closely followed the Twitter feed
> from a distance.
>
> As the conference events have ended, I encourage those who attended
> in person as well as virtually to check out the Diigo site for the
> conference. If you are not a member of Diigo, you will want to join
> first. With all of the great interactions from the conference and
> the new resources and ideas, this is now a great time to record your
> new knowledge in a way that is social (available to others),
> available anywhere (on the internet and not on only on our personal
> computers). In the NAISAC10 Diigo group, you can post your new
> resources, resources from your presentations etc. to the group.
> There is also a place to start discussions around these resources.
> This is a great opportunity to explore the power of social
> bookmarking as a resource. When you sign up for the naisac10 diigo
> group, you have the option to receive a daily e-mail digest or to be
> notified each time a new resource is posted. I would suggest that
> you go with the daily digest.
>
> The NAIS AC 2010 Diigo group is:
> http://groups.diigo.com/group/nais-2010-ac
>
> Other Community Links:
>
> Community Front Door (Blog): http://naisac10.wordpress.com/
> Community Dashboard: http://www.netvibes.com/naisac10#Conference_Dashboard
> Community Twitter Group: http://twitter.com/naisac10/community
> NAIS Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NAISnetwork
>
>
> Chris Bigenho
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: A forum for independent school educators [ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> ] On Behalf Of Fred Bartels [fredbartels@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:53 AM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual
> conference...
>
> .... has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power
> of
> Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."
>
> There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they
> all are
> close variations of the following:
>
> "The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we
> need it."
>
> A live blog of the session by Jason Ramsden is available here:
> http://bit.ly/dkfWZe
> (A huge thanks to Jason and others (http://bit.ly/d4Sz3K) for making
> the
> conference come alive for virtual attendees!)
>
> But back to Pat's interesting observation, which seemed to resonate so
> strongly with the edtech folks.
>
> I can imagine John Dewey smiling benevolently on hearing this
> statement. I
> can also imagine many Heads having a somewhat different expression.
>
> Curious what others think?
>
> Fred
>
> --
> Fred Bartels
> Thinking about learning as we need it here:
> http://eva2.wikispaces.com/
>
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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

What's the "winning" remark?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:45 AM, "Bigenho, Chris" <bigenhoc@greenhill.org>
wrote:

> People are still posting reflections to Twitter so keep looking for
> updates. I will also be posting additional reflections to the
> community blog for those who have attended in person or virtually.
> It would really be great to get reflections from individuals who
> attended live blogging sessions or closely followed the Twitter feed
> from a distance.
>
> As the conference events have ended, I encourage those who attended
> in person as well as virtually to check out the Diigo site for the
> conference. If you are not a member of Diigo, you will want to join
> first. With all of the great interactions from the conference and
> the new resources and ideas, this is now a great time to record your
> new knowledge in a way that is social (available to others),
> available anywhere (on the internet and not on only on our personal
> computers). In the NAISAC10 Diigo group, you can post your new
> resources, resources from your presentations etc. to the group.
> There is also a place to start discussions around these resources.
> This is a great opportunity to explore the power of social
> bookmarking as a resource. When you sign up for the naisac10 diigo
> group, you have the option to receive a daily e-mail digest or to be
> notified each time a new resource is posted. I would suggest that
> you go with the daily digest.
>
> The NAIS AC 2010 Diigo group is:
> http://groups.diigo.com/group/nais-2010-ac
>
> Other Community Links:
>
> Community Front Door (Blog): http://naisac10.wordpress.com/
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>
> Chris Bigenho
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: A forum for independent school educators [ISED-
> L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Fred Bartels [fredbartels@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:53 AM
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual
> conference...
>
> ... has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power of
> Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."
>
> There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they
> all are
> close variations of the following:
>
> "The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we
> need it."
>
> A live blog of the session by Jason Ramsden is available here:
> http://bit.ly/dkfWZe
> (A huge thanks to Jason and others (http://bit.ly/d4Sz3K) for making
> the
> conference come alive for virtual attendees!)
>
> But back to Pat's interesting observation, which seemed to resonate so
> strongly with the edtech folks.
>
> I can imagine John Dewey smiling benevolently on hearing this
> statement. I
> can also imagine many Heads having a somewhat different expression.
>
> Curious what others think?
>
> Fred
>
> --
> Fred Bartels
> Thinking about learning as we need it here:
> http://eva2.wikispaces.com/
>
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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

I think what Fred says is absolutely true and right on target. Getting
it done will be harder than passing health care reform and it's going
to be many of us who stand in the way. Having said that I suspect that
our resistance could be driven by an aversion to radical change
because that change will not be understood by our clients. It will be
a long hard sell to convince people that our children will be better
served by moving our program to a very different paradigm.

---Steve

On Sunday, February 28, 2010, Fred Bartels <fredbartels@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett inthe session "The Power of
> Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."
>
> There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they all are
> close variations of the following:
>
> "The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we need it."
>
> A live blog of the session by Jason Ramsden is available here:
> http://bit.ly/dkfWZe
> (A huge thanks to Jason and others (http://bit.ly/d4Sz3K) for making the
> conference come alive for virtual attendees!)
>
> But back to Pat's interesting observation, which seemed to resonate so
> strongly with the edtech folks.
>
> I can imagine John Dewey smiling benevolently on hearing this statement. I
> can also imagine many Heads having a somewhat different expression.
>
> Curious what others think?
>
> Fred
>
> --
> Fred Bartels
> Thinking about learning as we need it here:
> http://eva2.wikispaces.com/
>
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--
Stephen Edele
Head of School
The Harbor School
Vashon, WA

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Re: School Websites

We used a website provider (FinalSite). I can't envision hosting a website
in-house in this day. Updates are done by the person who owns the
information, and principals and other administrators are responsible for
their pages and for appointing others in their divisions to update pages.

While fees can seem high compared to spending a $100 a year on a cheap host
and using open source software, our backend is completely maintained so we
do not worry about backups, upgrades, etc, and our website does not depend
on one person's arcane knowledge. Outsourcing the websites fits in with our
strategy of emptying our server room. Our goal is to outsource everything
except for those servers and services that must be in house.
--=20
Derrel Fincher
Director of Information and Communication Technology
Graded - The American School of S=E3o Paulo
http://www.graded.br | (55 11) 3747-4800 x160


2010/2/26 Elizabeth Donahue <edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org>

> I am taking a hard look at my school's website and the resources required
> to maintain the site with our current provider. I thought I would reach o=
ut
> to other schools to see how you are best managing your web presence. I wa=
s
> wondering if you would be
> willing to share some information about your website hosting with me. Her=
e
> are some questions, but anything you are willing to share would be helpfu=
l.
>
> 1. Did you create your website in-house, or did you hire a website
> developer?
>
> 2. If you created the website, what software did you use to build your
> site? If you used a developer, what company did you use?
>
> 3. Would you do it the same way again?
>
> 4. How are updates handled? Can you do them yourself or are the outsource=
d?
> How timely is the turnaround? Is there an added cost?
>
> 5. Are you happy with the fees required to keep your website running? If
> you are willing to share ballpark figures, that would be helpful.
>
> Thank you for you help!
>
> Beth Donahue
> Friends Academy
> North Dartmouth, MA
> edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org
>
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Re: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

People are still posting reflections to Twitter so keep looking for updates=
. I will also be posting additional reflections to the community blog for t=
hose who have attended in person or virtually. It would really be great to =
get reflections from individuals who attended live blogging sessions or clo=
sely followed the Twitter feed from a distance.

As the conference events have ended, I encourage those who attended in pers=
on as well as virtually to check out the Diigo site for the conference. If =
you are not a member of Diigo, you will want to join first. With all of the=
great interactions from the conference and the new resources and ideas, th=
is is now a great time to record your new knowledge in a way that is social=
(available to others), available anywhere (on the internet and not on only=
on our personal computers). In the NAISAC10 Diigo group, you can post your=
new resources, resources from your presentations etc. to the group. There =
is also a place to start discussions around these resources. This is a grea=
t opportunity to explore the power of social bookmarking as a resource. Whe=
n you sign up for the naisac10 diigo group, you have the option to receive =
a daily e-mail digest or to be notified each time a new resource is posted.=
I would suggest that you go with the daily digest.=20

The NAIS AC 2010 Diigo group is:
http://groups.diigo.com/group/nais-2010-ac

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Chris Bigenho

________________________________________
From: A forum for independent school educators [ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On=
Behalf Of Fred Bartels [fredbartels@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:53 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

... has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power of
Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."

There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they all are
close variations of the following:

"The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we need it."

A live blog of the session by Jason Ramsden is available here:
http://bit.ly/dkfWZe
(A huge thanks to Jason and others (http://bit.ly/d4Sz3K) for making the
conference come alive for virtual attendees!)

But back to Pat's interesting observation, which seemed to resonate so
strongly with the edtech folks.

I can imagine John Dewey smiling benevolently on hearing this statement. I
can also imagine many Heads having a somewhat different expression.

Curious what others think?

Fred

--
Fred Bartels
Thinking about learning as we need it here:
http://eva2.wikispaces.com/

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The most tweeted remark from the 2010 NAIS annual conference...

... has to be a great quip by Pat Bassett in the session "The Power of
Transformation: Disrupting your Institution to Make it Relevant."

There are a number of versions out there of what Pat said, but they all are
close variations of the following:

"The death of education as we know it may lead to learning as we need it."

A live blog of the session by Jason Ramsden is available here:
http://bit.ly/dkfWZe
(A huge thanks to Jason and others (http://bit.ly/d4Sz3K) for making the
conference come alive for virtual attendees!)

But back to Pat's interesting observation, which seemed to resonate so
strongly with the edtech folks.

I can imagine John Dewey smiling benevolently on hearing this statement. I
can also imagine many Heads having a somewhat different expression.

Curious what others think?

Fred

--
Fred Bartels
Thinking about learning as we need it here:
http://eva2.wikispaces.com/

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Saturday, February 27, 2010

Re: Cable broadband and voice - feedback/guidance?

We did the two T1s with balancing this year, having one T1 for phones =
and 1 T1 for internet last year. Moving to one provider we are actually =
paying a little less per month with the same phone coverage and internet =
speed about 1.75 faster than last year.

Unfortunately, we are to "remote" to get cable.

Renee Ramig
Seven Hills School


-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Artur Morka
Sent: Fri 2/26/2010 3:43 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: Cable broadband and voice - feedback/guidance?
=20
I have to agree with Jason.
I got Comcast for $98 a month last year - no 3 year contract !!
I use it as a support and back up connection for school.=20
Normal situation Comcast is supporting my student surfing internet load =
balancing T1 and=20
Comcast. Admin staff has priority on using T1 over the Comcast.
T1 goes down Comcast takes over and vice versa.
I wast talking with Verizon - no FIOS in my area yet but it is coming.

Warning!- do not leave T1 if you have phones running on it.
I have two T1 one for phones and one for Internet - I'm thinking about =
changing to PRI and=20
dynamic balancing between two T1's.

Artur Morka
Lowell School.

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Re: Internet safety instruction in K-12 schools.

thanks. looks like there is some good stuff here
________________________________________
From: A forum for independent school educators [ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On=
Behalf Of Giovanni Paoli [gpaoli@dreyfous.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:42 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Internet safety instruction in K-12 schools.

Hello colleagues, I was asked to share this with all of you.


Hola Giovanni,

Could you send this announcement to the private school list you are on?

The National Computer Security Alliance just released a report on
Internet safety instruction in K-12 schools.
<http://www.staysafeonline.org/content/ncsa%E2%80%99s-national-k-12-studies=
>


Not surprisingly, their conclusion was: "The survey found that America=92s
young people aren=92t receiving adequate instruction to use digital
technology and navigate cyberspace in a safe, secure and responsible
manner and are ill-prepared to address these subjects.

The survey also found: "Over three quarters of teachers have spent less
than six hours on any type of professional development education related
to cyberethics, cybersafety and cyber security within the last 12
months." Further: "Seven in ten (69%) teachers feel that cyberethics,
cybersafety and cybersecurity professional development is a priority."

Center for Safe and Responsible Internet use very pleased to announce
that two professional development videos, with extensive handouts, are
now available. <http://csriu.org/professionals/>

Cyber Savvy Teachers

Cyber Savvy Teachers is an approximately 2 hour Professional Development
presentation, with 29 page presentation notes, that will provide
teachers will a comprehensive research-based understanding of all
aspects of digital media safety and responsibility. This presentation
will prepare teachers to effectively teach these subjects using the
student handout materials from CSRIU or any other research-based
Internet safety curriculum. Additional resources, including a Scope and
Sequence of Instructional Objectives and student handouts, are freely
available on the above page.

Cyberbullying, Cyberthreats & Sexting

Cyberbullying, Cyberthreats & Sexting is an approximately 2 hour
professional development video presentation, with 30 page notes, for
principals, school counselors and psychologists, school resource
officers, and educational technology personnel that addresses the
concerns related to student online use that are most likely to directly
impact schools. This presentation presents research on the issues,
addresses legal issues, and provides guidance on effective investigation
and intervention and a comprehensive prevention approach.

The pricing for these materials allows for individual users, a range of
school/district sizes. University faculty and trainers can acquire the
individual user materials and then pay for handout copies, hard copy or
electronic, through the Copyright Clearance Center.

CSRUI's overall framework for addressing these issuse, Cyber Savvy
Schools, is on the home page at http://csriu.org.

Additional materials under development include; Youth Risk Online,
Effective Internet Use Management in a Web 2.0 World, Web 2.0 in
Schools: Legal Issues, and Digital Media Literacy.

Nancy
--
Sent from my BlackBerry=AE smartphone with SprintSpeed

-----Original Message-----
From: "Bigenho, Chris" <bigenhoc@greenhill.org>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:42:00
To: <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Subject: The Daily Find: NAIS Feb. 26a

Here is a link to The Daily Find for Feb. 26a from NAIS Annual Conference 2=
010. There is a great collection here. I will work to capture some of the f=
inal reflections as they get posted. For those who may have been following =
via Twitter or Live blogging, we woulld love to hear from you as well. Feel=
free to submit a Conference Reflection from your remote location. Enjoy to=
day's offerings:

http://naisac10.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/the-daily-find-feb-26a/

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Internet safety instruction in K-12 schools.

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Friday, February 26, 2010

The Daily Find: NAIS Feb. 26a

Here is a link to The Daily Find for Feb. 26a from NAIS Annual Conference 2=
010. There is a great collection here. I will work to capture some of the f=
inal reflections as they get posted. For those who may have been following =
via Twitter or Live blogging, we woulld love to hear from you as well. Feel=
free to submit a Conference Reflection from your remote location. Enjoy to=
day's offerings:

http://naisac10.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/the-daily-find-feb-26a/

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Re: Cable broadband and voice - feedback/guidance?

I have to agree with Jason.
I got Comcast for $98 a month last year - no 3 year contract !!
I use it as a support and back up connection for school.
Normal situation Comcast is supporting my student surfing internet load balancing T1 and
Comcast. Admin staff has priority on using T1 over the Comcast.
T1 goes down Comcast takes over and vice versa.
I wast talking with Verizon - no FIOS in my area yet but it is coming.

Warning!- do not leave T1 if you have phones running on it.
I have two T1 one for phones and one for Internet - I'm thinking about changing to PRI and
dynamic balancing between two T1's.

Artur Morka
Lowell School.

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Re: Cable broadband and voice - feedback/guidance?

I would drop the voice=A0from the=A0Comcast offer and see if you can get th=
em to under=A0$100/month and use them to replace your Verizion DSL.=0A=0ASo=
rt of answering your questions:=0A1.=A0 50MB is maximum you mileage will va=
ry considerably and there is know why to really know until you sign the con=
tract.=A0 The advantage of a T-1 is=A0that it is=A0yours, end-to-end with g=
uaranteed speed, and it is connect to very=A0fat pipes on the other end (wh=
ere as=A0Comcast's grow larger in progression.=A0 Additionally, we know Com=
cast and other providers do traffic shaping that slow down certain types of=
data and users based on rules they do not publish.=A0 Until Net Neutrality=
rules are beefed up this will not change.=0A2.=A0 There are security issue=
s, but the are different from what you suggest.=A0=A0T-1 providing phone se=
rvice to a school is critical infrastructure and=A0you are going to get imm=
ediate response from your provider=A0and you will generally=A0encounter hig=
her quality repair and technical services folks on the ground (if not on th=
e phone) meaning more security and piece of mind for the school.=A0 In case=
s of natural disasters (e.g. flood, ice storm, etc.) your T-1 will typicall=
y be brought up well before your cable.=A0 I wouldn't worry too much about =
shared line from a security perspective.=0A3.=A0 DC is supposed to be getti=
ng FiOS (with similar issues) next year and Comcast is already rolling out =
100MB services and testing 200MB fiber.____________________________=0AJason=
at jasonpj@yahoo.com =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: JPDS =
Tech <techpurchases@jpds.org>=0ATo: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU=0ASent: Fri, Fe=
bruary 26, 2010 1:44:19 PM=0ASubject: Cable broadband and voice - feedback/=
guidance?=0A=0AWe are being wooed by Comcast.=A0 They are offering a 50 MBP=
S connection, with=0Anine phone lines for about $500/month for a three-year=
contract.=A0 This is=0Avery tempting because it would be less expensive an=
d much greater bandwidth=0Athan we currently have.=A0 Right now we use a si=
ngle T1 (9 pairs are=0Apriority-voice but bounce to data when not being use=
d) supplemented by a=0AVerizon business DSL (peak < 7 MBPS down).=A0 =0A=0A=
We're located in D.C. which limits our options somewhat.=A0 For example, FI=
OS=0Ais not available.=0A=0AQUESTIONS:=0A*> Do you currently, or have you p=
reviously, used Comcast or another cable=0Aprovider for your school Interne=
t?=0A*> Do you have reason to warn us away from doing business with them?=
=A0 I have=0Aa generally low opinion of ALL the major ISPs but it is hard t=
o avoid them.=0A*> I've been warned that voice-over-cable quality can deter=
iorate if the=0Apackets aren't isolated.=A0 Do any of you know about this?=
=A0 =0A*> I understand that cable throughput speeds can vary greatly.=A0 An=
y words of=0Aadvice / things I should be able to ask the cable company for?=
=A0 =0A*> Are there potential security/privacy issues?=A0 I have been told =
that=0Acables are shared lines.=0A*> Is something else even faster coming o=
ut in the next year that we should=0Await for?=0A=0AAny and all help would =
be most appreciated.=0A=0A=0ADan Berger=0AJewish Primary Day School of the =
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The Daily Find 2/25b from NAIS in SF

I finally got around to getting this together. Late night last night as I m=
ade some new adjustements to my 8am session. Always changing...the presenta=
iton is...(in a voice like Yoda)

You will find:
Conference bloggers
Community bloggers (at the conference)
Twitter information
Transcripts from live blogging sessions

Check it out at: http://naisac10.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/the-daily-find-fe=
b-25b/

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Re: Cable broadband and voice - feedback/guidance?

Just a couple of comments. We do have Comcast cable for our school =
internet. We are in the Shenandoah Valley and there is no other option. =
In terms of service, by and large, they have been fine. We've been with =
them for 8 years. There were two several day outages back when it =
belonged to Adelphia, but nothing more than an hour or two with Comcast.

Yes, cable is a shared service. One advantage we have is that we are on a =
stretch of cable with very few people on it, especially during the day. I =
would think you need to ask about how they are guaranteeing the speed and =
how many other users are on the same stretch of cable with you.

I can't address any of your other concerns.

Good luck,

Sister Elizabeth
Powhatan School

>>> JPDS Tech <techpurchases@jpds.org> 02/26/2010 1:44 PM >>>
We are being wooed by Comcast. They are offering a 50 MBPS connection, =
with
nine phone lines for about $500/month for a three-year contract. This is
very tempting because it would be less expensive and much greater =
bandwidth
than we currently have. Right now we use a single T1 (9 pairs are
priority-voice but bounce to data when not being used) supplemented by a
Verizon business DSL (peak < 7 MBPS down). =20

We're located in D.C. which limits our options somewhat. For example, =
FIOS
is not available.

QUESTIONS:
*> Do you currently, or have you previously, used Comcast or another cable
provider for your school Internet?
*> Do you have reason to warn us away from doing business with them? I =
have
a generally low opinion of ALL the major ISPs but it is hard to avoid =
them.
*> I've been warned that voice-over-cable quality can deteriorate if the
packets aren't isolated. Do any of you know about this? =20
*> I understand that cable throughput speeds can vary greatly. Any words =
of
advice / things I should be able to ask the cable company for? =20
*> Are there potential security/privacy issues? I have been told that
cables are shared lines.
*> Is something else even faster coming out in the next year that we =
should
wait for?

Any and all help would be most appreciated.


Dan Berger
Jewish Primary Day School of the Nation's Capital

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Re: NAIS Attendees- 8am session: Lessons cloaked in the power of narrative

Your perspective makes me think of our AOS program History as Story. I
ask all grades 4-8 each January to have a research project related to
their history or science curriculum. In the last week of January I host
an author on campus for 4 days of assemblies and master clases to work
on writing the research into whatever the final product will be. In all
cases, the opening paragraph is a more creative spin on the usual, a
chance to take the facts and build a scene related to the topic. 8th
grade researches important artists in 20th century US, so a scene might
be an early performance in Duke Ellington's career, a seminal moment in
some way. 7th grade studies American History to the Civil War, and
their scenes might be from Nathan Hale or Andrew Jackson. 6th studies
Ancient History, and ultimately writes a persuasive paper defending (or
denying) the importance of Alexander the Great, for example. 5th grade
has done both Inventors and Explorers in different years. In all cases,
the requirement of a setting as in fiction requires the students to know
more about the times in which their topic lived and to build more of a
story to their lives. We have done this project for 8 or so years now,
and I see many changes that can partially be attributed to the program:
writing skills have improved; understanding of why the times around a
person are important have improved; teacher design of research projects
that are achievable have improved through consistent collaboration with
library staff, and on and on. All from a grounding in Story.

I'm so glad you presented at NAIS - I wish I could have heard the
program.
Dorcas Hand
Annunciation Orthodox School
Houston

-----Original Message-----
From: Bigenho, Chris [mailto:bigenhoc@greenhill.org]=20
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:18 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: NAIS Attendees- 8am session: Lessons cloaked in the power of
narrative

Are you looking for a session at 8:00 this morning. Let me suggest
coming to hear a few stories. I will share three different stories in
three different formats. The first will be a narrative game for
learning. The other two will be global human instrest stories from Iran
and Haiti. You can learn more abou the session at:
http://bigenhoc.wordpress.com/presentations/nais-ac-2010-lessons-clocked
-in-the-power-of-narrative/

8-9 am
Room 3001

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Cable broadband and voice - feedback/guidance?

We are being wooed by Comcast. They are offering a 50 MBPS connection, with
nine phone lines for about $500/month for a three-year contract. This is
very tempting because it would be less expensive and much greater bandwidth
than we currently have. Right now we use a single T1 (9 pairs are
priority-voice but bounce to data when not being used) supplemented by a
Verizon business DSL (peak < 7 MBPS down).

We're located in D.C. which limits our options somewhat. For example, FIOS
is not available.

QUESTIONS:
*> Do you currently, or have you previously, used Comcast or another cable
provider for your school Internet?
*> Do you have reason to warn us away from doing business with them? I have
a generally low opinion of ALL the major ISPs but it is hard to avoid them.
*> I've been warned that voice-over-cable quality can deteriorate if the
packets aren't isolated. Do any of you know about this?
*> I understand that cable throughput speeds can vary greatly. Any words of
advice / things I should be able to ask the cable company for?
*> Are there potential security/privacy issues? I have been told that
cables are shared lines.
*> Is something else even faster coming out in the next year that we should
wait for?

Any and all help would be most appreciated.


Dan Berger
Jewish Primary Day School of the Nation's Capital

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Re: The Computer Build project (a shoutout to Alan November wherever you roam)

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Re: School Websites

Good Morning Beth,

We are a coed, K-12 day school 550 students.

Seven or eight years ago, we did our website in house. It was built by a
former student and maintained by two people in house. Keeping the server
protected was an constant issue, and we were concerned that the work feel
all on one or two people and if they weren't here, information stayed
stagnant.

We did a web search for vendors and got three finalists that we interviewed
and solicited proposals from. We made our selection and have never looked
back.

It has been the best investment we've made in the past 10 year. The
advancement and tools they have provided us with we would never have been to
do on our own, as well as being always live, protected, and well backed up.

I hope this helps, call is you have any questions!

Bud

William "Bud" Brooks
Director of Technology
Bancroft School
110 Shore Drive
Worcester, MA 01605
508-853-2640 x340


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Elizabeth Donahue <
edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org> wrote:

> I am taking a hard look at my school's website and the resources required
> to maintain the site with our current provider. I thought I would reach out
> to other schools to see how you are best managing your web presence. I was
> wondering if you would be
> willing to share some information about your website hosting with me. Here
> are some questions, but anything you are willing to share would be helpful.
>
> 1. Did you create your website in-house, or did you hire a website
> developer?
>
> 2. If you created the website, what software did you use to build your
> site? If you used a developer, what company did you use?
>
> 3. Would you do it the same way again?
>
> 4. How are updates handled? Can you do them yourself or are the outsourced?
> How timely is the turnaround? Is there an added cost?
>
> 5. Are you happy with the fees required to keep your website running? If
> you are willing to share ballpark figures, that would be helpful.
>
> Thank you for you help!
>
> Beth Donahue
> Friends Academy
> North Dartmouth, MA
> edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org
>
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Re: School Websites

Our development office contracted this out. Once it was done, they
maintain it with Dreamweaver. If I had a say in doing it over, I would
want a portal that would be able to access our Moodle, Edline, college
search and webmail with a single login.

Judith Claire Robison
St. John's Catholic Prep
Director of Technology=20

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Donahue
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:42 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: School Websites

I am taking a hard look at my school's website and the resources
required to maintain the site with our current provider. I thought I
would reach out to other schools to see how you are best managing your
web presence. I was wondering if you would be
willing to share some information about your website hosting with me.
Here are some questions, but anything you are willing to share would be
helpful.=20

1. Did you create your website in-house, or did you hire a website
developer?

2. If you created the website, what software did you use to build your
site? If you used a developer, what company did you use?

3. Would you do it the same way again?

4. How are updates handled? Can you do them yourself or are the
outsourced? How timely is the turnaround? Is there an added cost?

5. Are you happy with the fees required to keep your website running? If
you are willing to share ballpark figures, that would be helpful.

Thank you for you help!

Beth Donahue
Friends Academy
North Dartmouth, MA
edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org


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Re: School Websites

Beth,

1. We developed our web site in-house.
2. SharePoint.
3. Yes.
4. All updates go through our Web Master who is the Director of
Communications. He processes them and then sends them to the technology
department to be posted.

Robert Flanagan
Missouri Military Academy

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Elizabeth Donahue <
edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org> wrote:

> I am taking a hard look at my school's website and the resources required
> to maintain the site with our current provider. I thought I would reach out
> to other schools to see how you are best managing your web presence. I was
> wondering if you would be
> willing to share some information about your website hosting with me. Here
> are some questions, but anything you are willing to share would be helpful.
>
> 1. Did you create your website in-house, or did you hire a website
> developer?
>
> 2. If you created the website, what software did you use to build your
> site? If you used a developer, what company did you use?
>
> 3. Would you do it the same way again?
>
> 4. How are updates handled? Can you do them yourself or are the outsourced?
> How timely is the turnaround? Is there an added cost?
>
> 5. Are you happy with the fees required to keep your website running? If
> you are willing to share ballpark figures, that would be helpful.
>
> Thank you for you help!
>
> Beth Donahue
> Friends Academy
> North Dartmouth, MA
> edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org
>
>
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NAIS: Today's Live Blogs feature Michael Horn and Tony Wagner...

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Unable to attend NAIS' Annual Conference? Do you have a snow day back eas=
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Stop by and enjoy the conversation virtually!

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cell: (919) 337-2244
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NAIS Attendees- 8am session: Lessons cloaked in the power of narrative

Are you looking for a session at 8:00 this morning. Let me suggest coming t=
o hear a few stories. I will share three different stories in three differe=
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Re: School Websites

Hi Beth,=20

Before I answer the questions, we are 1-12, co-ed, day school of 1,200
students and 125 faculty & staff.

1. Did you create your website in-house, or did you hire a website
developer? =20
=09
We use a content management system from a vendor. It provides a
public site and a password protected site for all of our constituents.
=09
2. If you created the website, what software did you use to build your
site? If you used a developer, what company did you use?
=09
We are a WhippleHill school - we previously used Dreamweaver.

3. Would you do it the same way again?

Yes

4. How are updates handled? Can you do them yourself or are the
outsourced? How timely is the turnaround? Is there an added cost?

We are able to assign any user within our community, faculty,
student, parent or alumni rights to make changes to any area of the site
we designate. Practically speaking there are about 4 people who make
regular 'daily' changes to the site.

5. Are you happy with the fees required to keep your website running? If
you are willing to share ballpark figures, that would be helpful.

I know that the fees are comparable to the other company's out
there (FinalSite and SilverPoint). It is not inexpensive but for the
tools we have it is reasonable - compared to using other content
management systems it is good.=20


Ed

Ed Patterson
Director of Academic Technology & Webmaster
Norfolk Academy
Norfolk, Virginia=20
http://www.norfolkacademy.org=20

-----Original Message-----
From: A forum for independent school educators
[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Donahue
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:42 AM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: School Websites

I am taking a hard look at my school's website and the resources
required to maintain the site with our current provider. I thought I
would reach out to other schools to see how you are best managing your
web presence. I was wondering if you would be
willing to share some information about your website hosting with me.
Here are some questions, but anything you are willing to share would be
helpful.=20

1. Did you create your website in-house, or did you hire a website
developer?

2. If you created the website, what software did you use to build your
site? If you used a developer, what company did you use?

3. Would you do it the same way again?

4. How are updates handled? Can you do them yourself or are the
outsourced? How timely is the turnaround? Is there an added cost?

5. Are you happy with the fees required to keep your website running? If
you are willing to share ballpark figures, that would be helpful.

Thank you for you help!

Beth Donahue
Friends Academy
North Dartmouth, MA
edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org


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School Websites

I am taking a hard look at my school's website and the resources required to maintain the site with our current provider. I thought I would reach out to other schools to see how you are best managing your web presence. I was wondering if you would be
willing to share some information about your website hosting with me. Here are some questions, but anything you are willing to share would be helpful.

1. Did you create your website in-house, or did you hire a website developer?

2. If you created the website, what software did you use to build your site? If you used a developer, what company did you use?

3. Would you do it the same way again?

4. How are updates handled? Can you do them yourself or are the outsourced? How timely is the turnaround? Is there an added cost?

5. Are you happy with the fees required to keep your website running? If you are willing to share ballpark figures, that would be helpful.

Thank you for you help!

Beth Donahue
Friends Academy
North Dartmouth, MA
edonahue@friendsacademy1810.org


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