and Fred.
=20
However, I must admit there is this idea that somehow our listserv is =
for the good of the group that "signed" up for access, just as I =
"signed" up for access to isenet.ning.com. Somehow in my mind that =
means that I have chosen access to a limited group of people and ideas =
and that those same will indeed stay among the group with access to =
same. So, for those of us that are the digital immigrants (yes, I know =
that somehow dates me, but it is true!), it is a new way of thinking. I =
don't think it will change how any of us respond, if we chose to, =
although I will/may feel a need to be more careful/cautious in my =
replies.
=20
In the end, I suppose that I am comfortable with the "publicness" that =
this change implies -- only because, as I remind myself a lot these =
days, the times are a-changing! However, it would have been nice to =
been asked.
=20
Anne
=20
Escuela Americana
San Salvador, El Salvador
=20
________________________________
From: A forum for independent school educators on behalf of Fred Bartels
Sent: Tue 2/5/2008 6:53 PM
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: ISED on a Blog? Your thoughts?
Interesting issue on a number of levels. I found the blog in question =
via
a quick Google search and after doing the typical vanity search for my
past posts am convinced the blog is a useful new addition. It definitely
lowers the barriers to accessing and searching past posts to ISED. While
there may be some dangers in that new ease of access the reality is that
the information has been available for a long time for anyone who really
wanted to dig for it. It is probably a positive thing that we disabuse
ourselves of the notion that our posts to ISED are somehow not in the
public domain. The blog facilitates mining the information posted to the
list and at the same time reminds us to be careful about what we post.
Seems like a win/win to me.
Having said that, I do think it is almost always a good idea to ask
permission when making changes having an impact on a collaborative
collegial enterprise like ISED. (I speak from the slightly uncomfortable
experience of having crossed this line once or twice in the past.)
Fred
-------------------------
Fred Bartels
Head - Computer Department
Rye Country Day School
914-925-4610
A forum for independent school educators <ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> =
writes:
>Dear ISED-L Members,
>
>Recently an ISED member began feeding ISED list posts to a blog. He
>informed the list, although not the list managers, and ISED posts =
began
>forwarding to the blog. Shortly thereafter we asked the list member to
>disable the part of the blog that accepted ISED feeds until we had a
>chance to discuss the change on the list.
>
>While the list managers recognize the limits of a traditional listserv =
and
>believe that content should be made available in a variety of forms, we
>wonder if list contributors want their postings published a second time =
on
>a blog? On the blog they can be responded to without the knowledge of =
the
>original writer, unless that person checks in on a regular basis.
>
>Our thought is that this particular use of ISED material does not =
really
>come under the "Creative Commons." While anything can be reposted
>anywhere on the Internet, is the automatic reposting to a blog =
something
>contributors and subscribers wish to do? Should subscribers give their
>permission to repost? Does participation on ISED give someone implicit
>permission to repost?
>
>On January 17, my colleague and fellow manager, Curt, at the suggestion =
of
>the other list managers, wrote a polite e-mail request that the blog be
>disabled for the time being. The full e-mail was posted on the blog,
>although it was intended for one person with copies to the other list
>managers.
>
>We appreciate that those of you who have suggested changes or =
implemented
>virtual communities with other tools have taken the time to check in =
with
>the managers and then with the subscribers.=20
>
>Let's open this issue as a discussion topic. What are your thoughts? We
>look forward to hearing your views.
>
>Best,
>Marti Weston
>Co-Manager, Independent School Educator's Listserv (ISED-L)
>For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L
>
>[ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
>Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, =
attribution,
>non-commercial, share-alike license.
[ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
Submissions to ISED-L are released under a creative commons, =
attribution, non-commercial, share-alike license.
[ For info on ISED-L see http://www.gds.org/ISED-L ]
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