Thursday, March 12, 2009

Re: Independent School Online Courses

I love Shank's work... If you have not read Shank, you should check out Scr=
ooge Meets Dick and Jane. Here is a taste...

http://books.google.com/books?id=3DcAo2O2g_snoC&dq=3Dscrooge+meets+dick+and=
+jane&printsec=3Dfrontcover&source=3Dbl&ots=3DHXEXcrkJbV&sig=3DYSdncBDsC3zg=
_lxGH9Zkyz-6uqY&hl=3Den&ei=3DWCy4SY6rGpmktQOAqIg2&sa=3DX&oi=3Dbook_result&r=
esnum=3D1&ct=3Dresult#PPP1,M1

Can be purchased at Amazon...
http://www.amazon.com/Scrooge-Meets-Dick-Roger-Schank/dp/0805838775


Enjoy!

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-----Original Message-----

As others, I've been holding back getting involved with this
thread because my experience is limited. But, now this is
getting closer to what concerns me about on-line curriculum.

I have not seen a reference to Roger Schank's work in this
area. Maybe I missed it so please excuse me if this has been
covered. Roger is a friend of a professor at UC Berkeley
that has been my mentor while I do volunteer work on the
non-profit he founded. Roger has a lot of experience
constructing on-line classes, both via companies he founded
and in collaboration (he is/was Chief Educational Officer
for Carnegie Mellon West which has courseware on-line). He
gives great examples of constructing classes in hid book:
Designing World-class E-Learning, McGraw-Hill, 2003.

So with this intro, I remember reading his book and some
stuff he sent me (but what's in what I don't remember since
this was a few years ago). He has developed classes that
solve (supposedly) Fred's issue. I remember that Roger had
developed large databases that contained class materials,
assignments, documented key problem areas and common
mistakes and canned responses to users making them, and
more... He relied on humans reading e-mail/on-line stuff
submitted by students, replying by composing material that
they get from the database. I think that this part of the
solution is comparable to the classic 800-number help
center approach.

So, the problem?

I read somewhere that each of his classes costs roughly
a million dollars. Now, the on-line classes that he has
developed are really first-class, for customers like IBM,
GE, Columbia, ... Maybe with a wiki-like effort, classes
can be built for a nominal amount. I try to use some of
his techniques just to improve the stuff I have on-line.

I guess I need to go back and scan through Roger's book
and then get back to Disrupting Class. I started to read
this book over the holidays but got side-tracked on some
other stuff. I'm a fan of Christensen (especially The
Innovator's Dilemma), but I didn't find Disrupting Class
a fun/easy read - but maybe I didn't give it enough of
a chance.

In any case, this is an interesting thread, keep the
thoughts coming please,
guy

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