Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Re: Fire Suppression System

Good to know, it sounds like gas systems deserve a second look. =0A_J=0A=
=0A ____________________________=0AJason at jasonpj@yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jason Hyams <jhyams@st-agnes.or=
g>=0ATo: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU=0ASent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:48:57 =
PM=0ASubject: Re: Fire Suppression System=0A=0AWe use the Fike ECARO-25 fir=
e suppression system. It is "clean agent"=0Agas system that does not harm =
the electronics and is safe for people in=0Athe computer room. Our suppres=
sion system is tied to the fire alarm=0Asystem which has a battery backup. =
I recommend visiting www.fike.com=0Afor more information about computer ro=
om suppression system. =0A=0A=0AJason Hyams=0ADirector of Technology=0ASt.=
Agnes Academy=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: A forum for=
independent school educators=0A[mailto:ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf =
Of Jason Johnson=0ASent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:29 PM=0ATo: ISED-L@LIS=
TSERV.SYR.EDU=0ASubject: Re: Fire Suppression System=0A=0AIn general, I wou=
ld not recommend a gas based system for a school and=0Ainstead consider foa=
m or dry agent systems. They are typically more=0Aexpensive to maintain an=
d harder to clean up, but they pose a far lower=0Arisk of accidental death =
by suffocation if the gas system is activated=0Awith someone in the room. =
Most UPS solutions allow for integration with=0Aenvrionmental systems for e=
mergency shut down but mediating between=0Avendor solutions can be a pain. =
=0A=0AA few years ago I worked with an APC rep directly to design a simila=
r=0Aprocess for emergency shutdowns (following a near miss with a burst=0As=
prinkler pipe 2 stories above the server room) and it involved=0Aupgrading =
the existing UPS with network adapters and replacing some=0Aolder models th=
at could not be networked. This was a half-step as we=0Acould not afford t=
o replace the sprinklers but figured if the power was=0Aoff the damage woul=
d be greatly reduced. =0A=0AThere is also the bigger question of would the=
5 year total cost of=0Aownership of install and operation be worth putting=
towards an off-site,=0Aredundant, warm infrastructure or other solution th=
at accepts the=0Ahardware will be lost (and presumably covered to some degr=
ee by=0Ainsurance) and focuses on recovery speed and data retention. It=0A=
certainly would not work for everyone but it is worth considering.=0A=0A_J=
=0A=0A____________________________=0AJason at jasonpj@yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Bill Griscom <griscomb@e-lcds.o=
rg>=0ATo: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU=0ASent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:38:34 P=
M=0ASubject: Fire Suppression System=0A=0AHi everyone,=0A=0AI apologize for=
the really boring topic of fire suppression systems, but=0AI'm wondering i=
f anyone who has tackled a similar project could answer a=0Afew questions.=
=0A=0AThe gas based system we're looking to install would replace the=0Aspr=
inkler system in our server room. There are a few things we were=0Aasked to=
provide for the fire suppression company in the event of a=0Afire. One of =
those things is power shutdown in the room. Normally I=0Awouldn't think of =
this as a difficult task, but because we have a UPS in=0Athe server room, t=
he servers will continue to run until the batteries=0Aare drained.=0A=0AIf =
you use a fire suppression system that isn't water based, do you cut=0Aoff =
power to the server room if a fire is detected? How do you handle=0Athe UPS=
units that continue to power the servers even if the power is=0Aoff? Do yo=
u shut off power to the wall outlets and everything in the=0Aroom?=0A=0ATha=
nks in advance.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0ABill Griscom=0A=0ADirector of I=
nformation Services=0ALancaster Country Day School=0A725 Hamilton Road=0ALa=
ncaster, PA 17603-2491=0A717.392.2916 x. 246=0Agriscomb@lancastercountryday=
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