Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Re: Fire Suppression System

We use the Fike ECARO-25 fire suppression system. It is "clean agent"
gas system that does not harm the electronics and is safe for people in
the computer room. Our suppression system is tied to the fire alarm
system which has a battery backup. I recommend visiting www.fike.com
for more information about computer room suppression system. =20


Jason Hyams
Director of Technology
St. Agnes Academy


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Subject: Re: Fire Suppression System

In general, I would not recommend a gas based system for a school and
instead consider foam or dry agent systems. They are typically more
expensive to maintain and harder to clean up, but they pose a far lower
risk of accidental death by suffocation if the gas system is activated
with someone in the room. Most UPS solutions allow for integration with
envrionmental systems for emergency shut down but mediating between
vendor solutions can be a pain. =20

A few years ago I worked with an APC rep directly to design a similar
process for emergency shutdowns (following a near miss with a burst
sprinkler pipe 2 stories above the server room) and it involved
upgrading the existing UPS with network adapters and replacing some
older models that could not be networked. This was a half-step as we
could not afford to replace the sprinklers but figured if the power was
off the damage would be greatly reduced. =20

There is also the bigger question of would the 5 year total cost of
ownership of install and operation be worth putting towards an off-site,
redundant, warm infrastructure or other solution that accepts the
hardware will be lost (and presumably covered to some degree by
insurance) and focuses on recovery speed and data retention. It
certainly would not work for everyone but it is worth considering.

_J

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Jason at jasonpj@yahoo.com


________________________________
From: Bill Griscom <griscomb@e-lcds.org>
To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:38:34 PM
Subject: Fire Suppression System

Hi everyone,

I apologize for the really boring topic of fire suppression systems, but
I'm wondering if anyone who has tackled a similar project could answer a
few questions.

The gas based system we're looking to install would replace the
sprinkler system in our server room. There are a few things we were
asked to provide for the fire suppression company in the event of a
fire. One of those things is power shutdown in the room. Normally I
wouldn't think of this as a difficult task, but because we have a UPS in
the server room, the servers will continue to run until the batteries
are drained.

If you use a fire suppression system that isn't water based, do you cut
off power to the server room if a fire is detected? How do you handle
the UPS units that continue to power the servers even if the power is
off? Do you shut off power to the wall outlets and everything in the
room?

Thanks in advance.


Regards,

Bill Griscom

Director of Information Services
Lancaster Country Day School
725 Hamilton Road
Lancaster, PA 17603-2491
717.392.2916 x. 246
griscomb@lancastercountryday.org

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