used Apple Pro Services to do the initial set up. This included
setting up three Xserves and binding them to the AD . We also had
them import all the student directories off of Windows servers and a
Mac server and roll them into the XServes. Pretty amazing what people
can do with scripting. Two of the servers are for the student
directories(using both SMB and AFP) . The third is a wiki/blog and
Noteshare Server.
This past summer we contracted Apple Pro Services to set up Deploy
Studio so we could re-image all the Macs on campus(about 110).
Considering the time saved and flexibility it is well worth the money.
Our pre-sales engineer who has school experience in a mixed
environment has been invaluable. He wrote the initial description of
the services needed.
Carl Campion
Archmere Academy
On Sep 10, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jason Johnson wrote:
> A word of caution here ARD != Group Policies. The nearest Apple
> equivalent is the Workgroup Manager which you receive as part of an
> Apple Server. If you have a large mac implementation (i.e. between
> 50-150 depending on your IT department and infrastructure) I would
> recommend considering investing in an Apple Server and connecting
> it to your Windows AD system and storage servers. It will likely
> save you time and money in the long run and is effectively a GP
> equivalent.
>
> In lieu of that Casper is likely your best option as mentioned by
> others. It is a stop gap measure that allow those who cannot
> invest in or support a significant Mac infrastructure to include
> macs as a sub-set of a windows infrastructure. There is a tipping
> point where Casper is no longer better than investing in a Mac
> server but that is both a hardware and staff cost equation.
>
> You can cobble together an alternate solution with ARD, Carbon Copy
> Cloner, plist modifications and a host of other free utilities for
> under $500 but it is not recommended and requires a significant
> amount of time from an experienced mac pro.
>
> You may find some better answers through communities at:
>
> http://www.macenterprise.org
>
> and
>
> http://www.afp548.com/
>
> Or by talking to your apple rep about professional services.
>
> _J
>
> ____________________________
> Jason at jasonpj@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rick Castorani <rcastorani@aimpa.org>
> To: ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:34:39 PM
> Subject: Managing Macs in a Windows Environment
>
> We are just beginning a one to one program with our high schoolers
> using the
> 13" aluminum macbook. We are all very excited and can not wait to
> get these
> in the hands of the students. I, on the other hand, come from a
> windows
> networking world where everything from default printers to mapped
> drives to
> advanced permissions is easily controlled by group policy and logon
> scripts.
> I am starting off with apple remote desktop but I feel that I am
> missing
> something. Those of you who are, or have been, in my situation,
> what do you
> use to manage your macs??
>
> Thank you so much in advance! Hope your school years have started
> out well!
>
> Rick Castorani
> Technology Coordinator
> Academy in Manayunk
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